953 or Ti?

Oh hey didn't see that post before, sorry mate, not this week, I have the exciting prospect of furniture assembly, cleaning, and overtime at work to keep me occupied tonight!

Bad times :(

Hopefully down for SE drinks tomorrow though if you fancy it mate, The HoeFuck is a pretty decent pub.

Yes its on order,should be here in a month or so.Theyre custom made to fit,think mine came out at 56.5 cm toptube,57cm seattube.Ive got 2 indy fab mountain bikes,one in 853 t'other is ti so thought id try 953 for my fixie but turns out theyre making it with xcr.

XCR looks pretty damn nice too!

As far as I know yes. Last time I checked was 6 months ago when I asked for my new bike to be fully 953 and was told that the forks would have to be 753 as Reynolds had not made the tubing available for 953 forks. About a year before I was told the same in relation to chain stays.

Mercian mention that "most" people go for reynolds carbon forks on 953 frames - the pic on their blog does look nice

Talk to Dave Yates about your requirements, he is ina good positionto advise ;)

http://www.baumcycles.com/bikes/road_ristretto.html

This is their reply when asked about building a 100% 953 frame..
We prefer to build from XCR or titanium, but if you want 953 that is
fine. We would build the whole frame, but not the fork from stainless.
David

^ I like the forks on that thing.

and the stays

oh and nice wheels.

That is all.

Baum are awesome. What's XCR?

Baum. I just love the word.

Baum are awesome. What's XCR?

Could be this ? http://www.columbustubi.com/eng/4_4_1.htm

josh

need a new bike already?

am sad that your mercian rustbucket has already fallen apart

Yeah, it's an archaic piece of overpriced shit.

would rather stainless steel (xcr or 953) than a titanium frame. it's just as strong if not stronger if you believe the mpa/ksi figures and the tube dimensions are more aesthetically pleasing, you have to go very oversize with Ti to get the bb stiffness i would like.

^Due to your awesome power and considerable body mass .

stronger until a feather lands on one of the tubes and dents it

but Ti has to be bigger O/D. i would rather have a 'normal' diameter tube that's thinner .4-.5 made of steel than Ti as it's less likely to beercan.
what makes you think ti doesn't dent? stainless is a harder material than Ti and due to the smaller tube diameters i would guess that any advantage given to ti due to it's greater wall thickness would be negated by these 2 material properties in steels favor.

I would say that the dentability of thin walled stainless steel tubing and oversized Ti tubing would be very similar. One might resist a ball bearing dropped from 3m the other 3.1m, feck knows, does'nt seem worth worring about.

Both materials will presumebly last donkeys years, as they wont rust or become brittle.

Both materials will build lightish frames.

The costs of the relatively exclusive stainless steel tubesets against the increasingly common Ti puts them at similar price ranges.

The only reason I can see to choose one over the other is ride quality.

Its frikkin obvious! Just ask yourself one question, punk. Did they use stainless steel for this??!

Huh, mufucker?! There's no further debate required. Using stainless would have been silly. Like the Ruskies.

Its frikkin obvious! Just ask yourself one question, punk. Did they use stainless steel for this??!

Huh, mufucker?! There's no further debate required. Using stainless would have been silly. Like the Ruskies.

nope.....but they did use 531 to make the jaguar D-Type chassis and I read that 953 is used as a layer in bullet-proof jackets...also:
Peter Thompson from Carpenter Specialty Alloys (Reynolds’ material supplier), 953 stainless alloy is twice as strong as titanium with a frame weight comparable to high-end aluminum, and won’t corrode.

But if you are worried about dents, surely you specify a greater wall thickness no?

As far as I know yes. Last time I checked was 6 months ago when I asked for my new bike to be fully 953 and was told that the forks would have to be 753 as Reynolds had not made the tubing available for 953 forks.

Dragging this up from the depths of time to note that there are now 953 fork blades, apparently http://road.cc/content/image/18270-reynolds-953-fork-blades

Haven't see a 953 steerer yet, but I'm guessing if they go to the trouble of making the complex fork blades, the relatively simple steerer would be a no-brainer.

Yay, 953 is awesome! XCR is also awesome!

Its frikkin obvious! Just ask yourself one question, punk. Did they use stainless steel for this??!

No, but they used it for this

Very very nice. There was a fantastic 953 frame in Roberts last I was in there - carbon forks though, which would need replacing with these :) For me, 953 for the race bike, Ti for a sportive type thing

oo, i read somewhere 953 does corrode, just like any stainless steel does - it's just more resistant - ti however wont (ever!)