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• #1527
They should ban all these photographers from demonstrations. Shit stirring bastards, all of them.
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• #1529
The design classic, Eames Aluminium Group chair does make for a hefty window breaking device.
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• #1530
i have one of those! lovely chair. crap, coulda hooked myself up with a matching pair.
it's also the same chair jon snow sits on when he reads the news. and the mastermind chair - which i suspect is a bit bigger tho.
damn middle class rioters - wheelie bin not good enough for you?
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• #1532
Just saw that :)
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• #1533
Cause for a drink. Just the one, for medicinal porpoises.
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• #1534
I'm not sure what this piece is, some kind of Chaise Lounge? It's not Corbusier but could be Van der Rohe. There's a German army parka involved which is no surprise.
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• #1535
It is Corbusier, its the same 'classic' shit they put in every office that has more money than sense
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• #1536
Thanks for that, you can get answers for everything on this forum.
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• #1538
The new Routemaster mock-up - already The Guardian are giving it a kicking, below;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/11/new-routemaster-bus-design-cacophony
I think though that from behind(ish), as in the shot here, it looks very good - and the 23 is my local route
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2010/nov/11/boris-johnson-unveils-london-bus
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• #1539
Fucking hate the way new design gets slagged off in this country. Looks fine to me.
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• #1540
I still cannot believe that the city voted for Boris because of the claimed 'danger' of the bendy bus and the whole novelty of the new routemaster.
The new bus look fine, just not very keen on the front end where the driver's windows is skewed.
Most importantly, does it have a better view?
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• #1541
Most importantly, does it have a better view?
Good point, Ed.
from a design viewpoint I think it looks ace.
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• #1542
not sure about the view but it will be quieter which not be a good thing although its very environmentaly friendly. It's by the same guy (Thomas Heatherwick) who designed the Bang of the North sculpture......so lets hope it's safer than that
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• #1543
Bang of the North was a bit deadly, but it was one of the most amazing sculptures I've ever seen. Loved it!
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• #1544
Think it was called the' B of the Bang' actually wasn't it as thats when Lyndford Christie said you had to set off in a race.....it was great, shame about what happened, think Heatherwick ended up paying out big time
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• #1545
Fucking hate the way new design gets slagged off in this country. Looks fine to me.
I agree with all of that. Over time, the doubters change tack. Praise must be too much effort. I can't wait to see these on the roads - only trouble is, as with concept cars which become a reality, they're always a diluted version when actually put into production, and what made them interesting has been shelved. Hopefully this mock-up represents the finished article.
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• #1546
True or False. Time Travel is possible...
Have watched it, certainly interesting, but a load of bollocks nevertheless!
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• #1547
Batshit crazy documentary on channel 4 at the moment
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• #1548
The new Routemaster mock-up - already The Guardian are giving it a kicking, below;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/11/new-routemaster-bus-design-cacophony
I think though that from behind(ish), as in the shot here, it looks very good - and the 23 is my local route
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2010/nov/11/boris-johnson-unveils-london-bus
Fucking hate the way new design gets slagged off in this country. Looks fine to me.
The Routemaster was a design classic, but I bet it wouldn't have been perceived as one when first launched. On a merely visual level, I certainly think it looks a lot better than the new version. I don't disagree with a lot of what Jonathan Glancey writes, except that I think the speculation about the reference to 'pirates' is either tongue-in-cheek or very far-fetched:
But, the way the body appears to have two skins, with the second looking like a skirt cut on an exaggerated bias, is fussy; from the front, the new Routemaster looks as if it's wearing an eyepatch, a knowing reference perhaps to the days, a century ago, when fiercely deregulated London buses raced one other dangerously to pick up passengers, and were known as "pirates".
The zig-zag effect of the glass lighting the forward stair is also fussy; as this is on one side only, the new bus is as wilfully asymmetrical as a deconstructivist building by Daniel Libeskind. The prominent and shiny hubcaps are a bit bling – as if from a pantomime pirate's costume – while, inside, the seat coverings look as if they have been designed with Bridget Riley in one of the artist's more challenging moments. Too many swirls.
At its best – from 1910 to 1970 – a true London bus was a fine balance between a workaday functional tool, designed for a long and hard life, and a machine of quietly resolved and understated elegance. Distinctive, it was never showy. There is still time for Heatherwick, TfL and Wrightbus to cut down on the number of notes played on this mock-up and to shape a fashion-free bus that might yet serve London for several post-Olympic generations.
I certainly agree that the rear doesn't look that bad:
Problems, in my view, are that 'swirl', which does look like design for the sake of design to me, and no upstairs rear window. This side of the bus looks very good, I think. Simple and unshowy.
However, I also agree with JG that the front still needs a good deal of work:
It'll be interesting whether the windows alongside the stairs will work. Those actually surprised me, as I would have thought that they would get in the way of advertising on the side of the bus. The whole lower front half of the 'face' of the bus I think is a complete miss. One of the main strengths of a Routemaster was that it had a pretty and friendly 'face':
The new bus just doesn't. It's completely bland. And, yes, I do think it's important for a car to have a nice 'face'. It's always fascinated me how we have for a long time built cars with two 'eyes', a 'nose', and often a 'mouth', too. :)
As the history of the Routemaster shows, the appearance of the new bus will probably continue to be tweaked over the years, and certainly between now and the finished model let's hope that some of the weaknesses are addressed.
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• #1549
The new bus has an asymmetric haircut.
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• #1550
Hipster bus.
Awsum vid.
Like g20 with more cameras
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11726822