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• #252
only 28H rear in stock, universal cycles is stocking them now but they're double the price
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• #253
GA2G - sorry to hurt your feelings and sorry that i dared to start a new thread without asking your permission.
You couldn't have hurt my feelings; you don't know me.
As for the merge, its part of a new forum policy to keep topics together, and therefore allow more discussion about them
.....instead of trawling this forum looking for the best of many similar threads.I'm not a moderator, not even close to admin, so the decisions lie elsewhere.
As for the out-of-date links, I try to get round to each list every couple of months, instead of everyday.
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• #254
I just wanted to ask opinion/ comparison on a few hubs in similar price range. If i wan't to check which hubs are available in uk i'm using the search option in google. That's why this thread was pretty useless for me.
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• #255
You can ask in this thread. We don't need another 'which hub' thread.
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• #256
suzue 79 for a pair? where?
Thanks for replies to everyone else, were very helpful
I got a pair of 32h Suzue Pro Max for £79.98 precisely, from here http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/HUSZPMSB/suzue-promax-sb-hub
Thank you TheorySwine, you were very helpful.
I shall add that in the next update. Much appreciated.
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• #257
the planet x hubs- any good or not worth looking at?
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• #258
Read the first post on this page.
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• #259
They rock IMO and take loads of abuse. Don't know how good they are to radially lace but as 3 cross I can't fault them.
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• #260
if they take abuse then they are perfect for what i need
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• #261
List has been updated. And it only took 3 hours. TruFax.
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• #262
Not sure yet, when available to the European market, but these look
like going the right path.
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• #263
Ooh - They look perfect for my new bike...
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• #264
Looking the best large flange front hub, like a more modern version of old school campy record? but that shape.
ambrosio?
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• #265
on-one, ambrosio, system X, BLB.... are old the same one, more or less, the only difference I have seen between them is the shape of the cut our of the flange, apart from that the look really the same
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• #266
they all seem pretty cheap 20ish? and then a massive jump to phil woods that are 100+
nothing in middle, weird campag dont make large flange hubs anymore.
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• #267
you have good hubs in the middle, but not campag looking ones, Grand Compe, Goldtec, Dura-ace
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• #268
they all seem pretty cheap 20ish? and then a massive jump to phil woods that are 100+
nothing in middle, weird campag dont make large flange hubs anymore.
The most important considerations are the specific use of your new hubs, and the price. Even the cheap On-One hubs will last well and give good service for a long time - as long as the bearings are replaced when necessary. If its exclusivity you crave, then only the most expensive hubs will do. Again, you would choose very different hubs if you mainly will use the wheels for commuting, or specificlly for track racing. The price groups seems to be:
Cheaper: £30-£50
Medium: £60-£90
High: £100-£300The Suzue SB hubs appear the pick of the litter in the medium group.
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• #269
Dia Compe
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• #270
Cheaper = High.
Frankly, a cheap on-one, ambrosio, system X, BLB etc. work exactly as they should, Having ridden a Phils and White Industries in the past, I really can't see much reason to get the latters, expect for a guarantee peace of mind that they'll work exactly as they're advertised.
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• #271
they all seem pretty cheap 20ish? and then a massive jump to phil woods that are 100+
nothing in middle, weird campag dont make large flange hubs anymore.
you have good hubs in the middle, but not campag looking ones, Grand Compe, Goldtec, Dura-ace
Not sure I'd say Goldtec and DA were in the middle.
If I were going to guess at why the pricing is like it is for fixed hubs, it would be because hubs aren't that hard to make and the materials they use aren't rare or expensive. The cheaper ones probably all use the same/similar bearings, axles and block of alu. Any differences are small and subtle.
Grand Compe are a slightly cooler brand, so that gives them the lee-way to increase the price. It also makes it worth it to produce colours like white in a good finish. Condor's the same, plus all that lazer etching probably bumps the price abit. But again it also allows then to say "see this is a quality product, look at the details."
Then at the top end you have co's like Phil/Royce. Who make a niche high quality product, using expensive top quality materials imported into a developed country and pay a 1st-world skilled worker the salary they demand. The idea is you produce the Rolls Royce of whatever it is you produce and charge handsomely for it. People pay it, because it's the best.
This is why I don't believe in a middle ground for fixed hubs (accept for looks and branding). I can't believe that there is a viable business model for it, which means I don't believe it exists.
waits for the engineers or mdcc_tester to correct him
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• #272
http://www.hedwheels.com/products.asp?cat=16
HED for the list
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• #273
I might Hed indeed for those. Nooice.
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• #274
This is why I don't believe in a middle ground for hubs (accept for looks and branding). I can't believe that there is a viable business model for it, which means I don't believe it exists.
I disagree.
The law of diminishing returns, means that the high end stuff thats a couple of grams lighter etc. will be pricey. Add to that the fact that you cant expect to sell so many, and you need to bump your price up, even more, to make them viable.
There will always be a market for cheap stuff.
The middle ground, should contain hubs made at a sensible quality level. With quality, if somewhat common, parts. Hope hubs (some of my favourates) are'nt the lightest, or the strongest. But to my mind offer fantastic quality for the price.
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• #275
Sorry, just to be clear I was talking about fixed or fixed/free hubs.
The road and mtb hub market is big enough to make having a range of models viable. The above is exactly why I don't think there are co's like hope, shimano, SRAM, campag, etc. offering a mid-range option in fixed options.
Overall I do accept the diminishing returns argument. Just that in this small market I don't think it works like that.
My reading of all these "which hub" threads has been that the conclusion is: buy the bottom, because they're good enough or the top end if you want to. Then people who actually just want to buy a particular brand because they like it, try and think of reasons to.*
- just for the record I don't think there's anything wrong with this. I would pay a premium for those low flange Grand Compe's up there even if they were made up of the same parts as the PX ones.
- just for the record I don't think there's anything wrong with this. I would pay a premium for those low flange Grand Compe's up there even if they were made up of the same parts as the PX ones.
I got a pair of 32h Suzue Pro Max for £79.98 precisely, from here http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/HUSZPMSB/suzue-promax-sb-hub