Locks that work

Ok, I havent read this thread for a while and dont intend to!

my OnGuard Mini Bulldog/ Magnum Pus whatever the fuck it is, died a sorry death. The keys are all fucked in it, so bought an NYC FAG!

= SHIT... DO NOT BUY

It's not in the list, nor would it be. Thanks for the warning though.

By the way, had the lock been left open to outdoor weather for extended periods?
That's a recipe for disaster, if WD40 isn't regularly used.

The keys are all fucked in it...

To be fair, that does usually happen to any lock regardless of brand, not common though.

Can I use that photo at the bike show? Did you take it? Is it yours?

It perfectly shows what I want to show:
1) How to lock your bike
2) The best lock
3) Pitlock for the wheels

Couldn't be better in fact.

So can I have permission to use it and a copy of the hi-res?

I don't think that is a pitlock on the rear is it? Looks more like PW? + the pitlock system isn't recommended for track wheels iirc. But yeah, ace image nonetheless

Pitlocks are a waste of money.
QR front wheel.
take it off and stick it with the rear.
Single D lock of high caliber and you're set.
Takes about 4 seconds on and off, a little more if you've disc brakes/ non QR brakes,
requires no fiddly key/tool- which you WILL lose.

RUBBISH. Taking off your front wheel, un-locking relocking your brake to do this is a total faff. What about the damage to your fork form pluncking it on bare concrete unprotected? What's stopping a theif from stealing your cockpit ie stem, bars, brakes/levers, fork etc? An Allen key >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
On top of that^ do you really want to remove your seatpost each time you're off your bike? What is it's a steel frame in the rain rain??

If you don't have a QR then how will you get the wheel off??
Tools.
But according to your scenario we're all too stupid to keep a tool that can be put on a key ring in......YOUR TOOL BAG.

ball bearing in both top aheadset top cap and seatpost collar

This thread has been great for me - particularly the recent inclusion of good locking practice pics.
From reading around i'm tempted by the combination of:
Kryptonite New York 3000 Lock NYL
Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini Lock.
Will be locking outside uni in elephant. Does anyone commute with this combination, and how heavy is it? managable? or should i look to swap Fahgettaboudit Mini for Evolution Mini ?

I've seen quite a few fg/ss bikes outside uni at Elephant, and I keep seeing the same ones....so obviously their locking is adequate. Maybe cycle down there, have a look, and compare your method to what is being used.

A good trick (sorry) is to be early, and lock you bike to the railings directly. Other students arrive and layer their bikes, so that those closest to the railings are harder to get to. I only suggest this if you're very nervous about your locks.

Your first combo of locks is very superior, but the weight would be extremely heavy. I suggest thinking about a chain that is left insitu overnight. Just carry one u-lock with you daily. Or, carry a very superior and wide u-lock, with quick release front wheel, that you can attach to the rear. Superglue a ball bearing into the seatpost and saddle fixings.

wot he said. If you're going to be locking up regularly in the same spot then consider a good lock or two and leave it at location permanently.
That way, weight isn't really an issue. It mostly comes down to price and quality then.

People leaving massive chains on racks sucks, please don't do that.

Oh stop winjing. (thought you said "ruck sacks", ha.)

in response to Swains i've just bought the Fagh Mini from here [SIZE=2][FONT=trebuchet ms,sans-serif]http://www.sportsequipment2u.com/kryptonite-new-york-fahgettaboudit-mini-lock.ir?cName=outdoor-cycle-helmets&src=froogle

Seems quite a reasonable price considering it's £90ish in Cycle Surgery etc. Comes in at just under £60 including postage

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People leaving massive chains on racks sucks, please don't do that.

Its actually advisable to leave such heavy chains in place overnight, ready for locking up the next day, as the chains recommended on this thread would cause spinal damage if carried every day. It may be an inconvenience for you, but its good security for others.

isn't it a bit like "putting your towels on the sunbeds at 5am" ??

:)

The Germans are very good people.

^ Racist surely?

I've never noticed Germans to be racist, if anything they tend to overcompensate to be overly inclusive.

As for chains on railings, does this leave them vulnerable to being tampered with to facilitate the theft of your bike the following day, or are the chains recomended here so good that this is not a practical concern?

I've never noticed Germans to be racist, if anything they tend to overcompensate to be overly inclusive.

Yup. They tried to include the whole of Europe.

It may be an inconvenience for you, but its good security for others.

If your lock strategy involves inconveniencing others, you need a new one.

How can it inconvenience anyone? If you're there first and there is a chain/D locked to the rack or railing it dosen't stop you from locking your bike up. When the person who owns the lock arrives they can remove the lock and use it wherever they like...

How can it inconvenience anyone? If you're there first and there is a chain/D locked to the rack or railing it dosen't stop you from locking your bike up. When the person who owns the lock arrives they can remove the lock and use it wherever they like...

Of course. Totally bizarre objection.

Let's move on.

Thanks chaps. This is quickly becoming my main reference point for all bike related info.

The 'secure' bike shed at my uni halls got broken into (they ripped a whole in the roof, literally above where my bike was). Security chased them off before theyd actually loaded any bikes up, but they had chopped through a number of locks, including the heavy duty Kryptonite chain on the mountain bike next to me. But what was left untouched? My peugeot, with a Mini evo snugly locked through the frame, rear wheel and stand. I've been meaning to buy a mini Fah for a while, but this was definitely the motivation i needed.

I doubt the chains listed in this thread would have been deafeated so easily. Kryptonite DO make the best locks, but their chains
are no match for the 16mm-19mm monsters in our list. Glad your technique saved the day.