• I suspect Dylan is right. But you shouldn't need loads of spokes. The maths for normal calculations won't work. Roger Musson, the Wheelpro man, does have a different calculation method using radians, but I'm not sure how that works.

    Just looking at the tangent angle of the spoke at the hub implies a length between 3 and 4 cross. Flickwg, what numbers do you have for the hub measurements and rim ERD? Just for fun.

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