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@Rich_G
cheeers olaf. ill keep that in mind next time, ias for damage. on the Gt bikes there is a little bit that sticks up where the top tube meets seat tube to act as seat clamp this has split about 2inches..thats not the main problem the main thing is that i have just mangled the whole seat post, there is nothing really to grab to pull out...i done made a mess!
and having just lost my rag with it i now have a screw driver jammed in the twisted aluminum mess jammed against the seat tube. shitstix twice