Bike porn

Possibly a repost, but oh well...

the orange bike looks pretty nice, dont like the sloping geometry on a lugged frame though.

if it was mine id feel stupid spending that much money on good modern components and attaching them to a steel frame. im sure it still rides nice.

I'd rather have a custom 853 frame (even 631) any day of the week vs a otp carbon frame.

It's clearly a pretty light bike, the f+f (forks could be carbon?) being steel probably adds 2lbs max.

the orange bike looks pretty nice, dont like the sloping geometry on a lugged frame though.

if it was mine id feel stupid spending that much money on good modern components and attaching them to a steel frame. im sure it still rides nice.

So what, if you bought a serrota or a pegoretti you'd put a £200 wheelset on it?

Stupid logic. If you chose a frame material that exchanges weight for comfort then why no try to make that weight gain back if you've got the cash?

Light bike? 953 lugged, carbon front and back goes down to 7.9 kgs. No pic. I agree that quality and weight of tubing/frameset should be matched by the components to make a really lovely bike.

gosh this is outright porn

anyone have a spare 1.7 grand?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1970-s-Cinelli-S-C-PISTA-TRACK-frameset-NOS-/400153584085?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item5d2b0321d5

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^^I'm not a fan of the lugs with a sloping tt either.

As for dropping that kind of cash on componants for a steel frame...meh..., but the £200 comparison is a bit rubbish when those rims are how much?

dunno - can't afford them :)

At the end of the day - if you've got the money you can do whatever the fuck you want with your bike... Let's face it we're jealous - maybe not of the bike itself, but certainly of the budget!

Not saying I think the bike is pretty, just saying that logic is stupid - when I first looked at it I thought it was a cross bike.

I like the orange bike. I thought the same as dan that it was a cross bike. Think its the long headtube that does it.

At least they've got the chain tensioned right for the pic

Nothing wrong with using high end component on a steel frame, in fact it's pretty fitting.

You can get steel frame weighting only 1,000g nowadays.

Ed has spoken

1,000g;

You can get steel frame weighting only 1,000g nowadays.

Pics, or it didn't happen.

1kg steel frames were mooted at the launch of 953, but actual medium sized frames built stiff enough for normal people are coming out nearer to 1.3-1.4kg. Maybe if you selected only the thinnest available 953 tubes and made a 48cm sloping frame with profiles selected to keep the butts as short as possible you could get down to 1000g, but that's a weight that carbon can hit in a frame properly specced for a big heavy rider like Thor Hushovd to race at Paris-Roubaix.

Yup, check the size of the head tube. Not exactly a long leg bike.

I want I want I want

THIS

Offt, new NV full susser

1,000g;

That looks tig welded (and beautiful); does anyone do lugless brazing yet on 953?

Anyways, it's not the weight of the frame, it's the weight of the complete rideable bike, for an average (say 75 kgs) rider...

I doubt if you could get that under 7 kgs for a 953.

does anyone do lugless brazing yet on 953?

It can be done, but in the Reynolds guidance notes it suggests that corrosion resistance of complete frames may be reduced by use of brazing rather than welding, since the filler rods (brass or silver) are not as corrosion resistant as the tube alloy itself.

That "1000g" Baum is tiny, has drillium dropouts and a thin walled BB shell, and has never been seen on the scales. Carbon frames have moved on to the 700g area, so I think it's a bit silly for steel builders to get into a weight weenie contest.

Offt, new NV full susser

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I agree completely mdcc. When my 953 was built lugless failed miserably; too brittle. Lugs worked, and light it is; for a steel framed bike that is stiff in the right places.

I once lifted a steel framed bike weighing 5.5 kgs; almost threw it onto the ceiling. Didn't ride it though...

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That cockpit looks far too cramped for climbing, so why the triple?

Poor position for the climb back up surely makes it even more imperative to have the low gearing

^^^ imo that orange bike is an eg of how not to combine a classicly-styled steel frame with modern componants.

how about THIS orange bike?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1429/1481361012_1c7a218eda_b.jpg