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  • @Autti
    Just because they don't 'rent' the same VPP design as santa cruz and intense and several others, and don't rely on hydroformed aluminium doesn't mean they use outdated designs and technology.
    You might want to look into just how many broken Intense DH frames there have been over the years.
    I know people that have broken one a season. I know one person who broke more than that, then got so sick of breaking them that he bought a brooklyn, then won the european champs on it.

    One of the reasons intense are so popular is because they have a great warranty policy.

    This whole discussion has been done to death though and even i'm bored of defending BMW's now.
    Ride what you want to ride, believe whichever hype you want to believe.

    BMW make great bikes, which are great to ride, and last a LONG time.
    But that's just my opinion and it's no more right or wrong than anybody elses.

    I have never ridden a BMW but I agree with what you say, they are innovative and without the presumably million dollar research and development budgets?
    Innovative doesn't always mean at the leading edge/the best possible, it can just mean different approaches which is where I guess Autti has the problem. I imagine that innovation from one spurs ideas on for another.

    Interested in the V brake though, did Brooklyn patent it or did Shimano make something similar but not protected by the patent? Brooklyn could have done very well with that one, or did they?

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