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Ed, the older driver is another matter all together. There should be special reaction based tests for older drivers as I strongly doubt that most 80 year olds could actually stop/avoid a rogue pedestrian as well as a younger driver.
It is about time that driving moved away from being a right. If you make a mistake then your license should be revoked. The roads would then be less full and only have very careful/responsible drivers on them. Public transport would have to improve as more would be using it.
What was this thread about, I forget.