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True.
Just using BJ as an eg because they make handbuilt steel frames and I guessed Thron would be on par with the Vigorelli's 631 frame. So was just doing some basic price comparison's outloud and asking for opinions.
As for BJ's rep... I agree its better to go with an established framebuilder, but is not like BJ have the best rep at the mo - even if it's not to do with the quality of their building.