RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

how does the law ever get changed?

clearly the suffragettes were wrong and bad

Surely SOMEONE has to determine which laws are right and wrong? And who is to say that they are right?

So in this example, do you think it is up to the driver/rider to decide whether the red light rule is correct or would you go with the law that SOMEONE set?

so you think racism was right when it was not illegal

lovely

Nice schoolboy conclusion on something I didn't even remark on!

Racism is illegal and it should be. Some people may think it should be legal though and ignore the law, those people are much like yourself if you think about it.

how does the law ever get changed?

clearly the suffragettes were wrong and bad

Yes, it is good that laws can be changed, and once changed for the better then good. But it is not for you to decide which laws to break or not on the off chance they may be changed.

If you are using the road then the laws of the road apply. What if I decide that it is okay to drive everywhere at 60, is that okay? If not then who are you to say, I know let's let the law decide!

So according to you, if the law was changed to actually allow everyone to drive around everywhere at 60mph, then you would do so because 'it is ok'. I'm sure the mothers of the kids you run over going past a school at 60 would disagree on how 'right' that is.

The law dictates what actions are permitted and what actions are disallowed through penalty or punishment - that is all. It does not determine which actions are good and which are bad.

So according to you, if the law was changed to actually allow everyone to drive around everywhere at 60mph, then you would do so because 'it is ok'. I'm sure the mothers of the kids you run over going past a school at 60 would disagree on how 'right' that is.

The law dictates what actions are permitted and what actions are disallowed through penalty or punishment - that is all. It does not determine which actions are good and which are bad.

+1

thankfully someone else has a brain too

how does the law ever get changed?

clearly the suffragettes were wrong and bad

do you want me to help chain you to some railings James

// bidding for me 'losing' the key starts at 10 pounds //

so wayne

you have never rlj'd?

would you not be in favour of left turns being allowed at red lights?

I don't remember being taught that jumping a red light is an option during training.

So according to you, if the law was changed to actually allow everyone to drive around everywhere at 60mph, then you would do so because 'it is ok'. I'm sure the mothers of the kids you run over going past a school at 60 would disagree on how 'right' that is.

The law dictates what actions are permitted and what actions are disallowed through penalty or punishment - that is all. It does not determine which actions are good and which are bad.

Yes I would drive at 60 in that case as the law would only be changed to 60 if it made sense to do so.

Of course the law decides what actions are good or bad as it goes hand in hand with the punishment/penalty. You only punish for doing something which is seen as bad don't you so the fact it is bad has already been decided.

+1

thankfully someone else has a brain too

Sadly, that is not you. For you to miss the parallel between a van driver deciding a law is not for him (backed up by other van drivers) and you deciding a law is not for you is shocking.

Kerkley, have you ever been drunk in a pub?
Have you ever eaten a mince pie on Christmas Day?

so wayne

you have never rlj'd?

would you not be in favour of left turns being allowed at red lights?

nope - never RLJ'd

The slower you are moving on a bike in London, the more danger you are in. Therefore, you are in most danger when you are stationary. Hence, why I never stop at red lights

The slower you are moving on a bike in London, the more danger you are in. Therefore, you are in most danger when you are stationary. Hence, why I never stop at red lights

nonsense

the less people around the safer I am, that is why I choose to murder as many people as I can. Other people also commit murders so it must be right, mustn't it?

One mans nonsense is another mans motto

nope - never RLJ'd

Or broken the law in any way?

I know this is not the case.

So you too chose which laws you obey, and I believe it's based on wether you believe the particular action will hurt someone else or not.

At least I am honest, you are being disingenuous but I will admit to being a hypocrite, you my good man seem to be incapable of this.

hugs and kisses

DJ

I tend not to RLJ, my main reason being that if i expect other road users to obey the law, then i should probably follow it myself - you look a bit of a cunt if you have a go at a driver, and they turn around and say, yeah but you just RLJ'd

The slower you are moving on a bike in London, the more danger you are in.

complete bollocks.

Wow, what a pointless descution that has happened time and time again on here. SOme people jump lights, other dont, other do some times and dont sometimes, everyones a cunt, no one is a cunt. Can we reserect the glossy girls photo thread again? That should calm down some of you folk.

no, that would just get me aroused

Why was the glossy girls thread put to sleep in the first place

complete bollocks.

To you maybe not to me

Why was the glossy girls thread put to sleep in the first place

I think it was sexist