• The BB height look normal, the seat tube angle is pretty slack, the wheel is slammed in, and the track end have a light grey appearance in comparison to the dark grey frame, etc.

    Let just wait and see until we get more photos.

    Wait for what? Wait for you to pull it to pieces based on some blurry photos?

    Every one has already made there decision...As far as the jury is concerned it's a dodgy frame that has been converted...

    thats what I was moaning about...no one has waited...every one went in and slagged it...

    And yes he could have waited for better photos, though for the same argument, why would he wait for better photos when he knows the frame is legit...he has seen it he knows the thing is real...If he says its a pug track frame...why shoot him down? why all the hate? If someone really wanted a pug track frame...they would say fuck it...take the chance dibs it and then if they see it and it is shit...slag him then....

    What I was commenting on wasn't the playful banter and the sarcasm and all the other bits that make this forum as funny as fuck...it was the slag him ..then find out its real...and not...find out its fake...then slag him...

    I was drawing attention to the whole...'woah...Until we decide it's ok...then it's obviously a crock of shit and are you sure it's what you say it is...'' If it was someone 'trusted' by the forum no one would have said a dickie bird...

    It's that double standard that I find annoying...Many people that have been into cycling for a very long time get treated with the least amount of respect because they are new here...

    Which is fine...though sometimes it gets a little jingoisitic...

    thats all.

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