Toe Overlap

you're going otp?

isn't 2008 was all about hipster?

I'm pretty sure all OTP (and some track-geo one) don't have toe overlap.

yea whats going on harry ?

Harry! where ya been. otp is so not like you!?

the apocalypse beckons

Thanks for the interest guys :)

To be more specific on size, summit around 56-57. I'm not interested in a bike that fits.

Thanks for the interest guys :)

To be more specific on size, summit around 56-57. I'm not interested in a bike that fits.

Try cutting the end of your shoes off:

I guess the title says it all really.
I'm wondering which of the OTP SS/Fixed bicycles don't have toe-overlap with a standard 700c front wheel and Large toe clips.

Pearson Touche.

Unnecessary to damage your shoes. Simply use an elyptical wheel and ride with the side with the shorter diameter closest to your feel.

I'm wondering which of the OTP SS/Fixed bicycles don't have toe-overlap with a standard 700c front wheel and Large toe clips.

The OTPs that suck...

I think it may be dependant on frame size...

Sheldon Brown says:
On many bicycles, especially smaller sizes, it is possible for the front fender or tire to bump into the rider's toe or to the toe clip. Some people worry a lot about this, but it is rarely a significant problem in practice.
The only time it can happen is when the handlebars are turned quite far to the side, which only happens at very low speeds.
Many, many people ride bikes with fairly severe overlap with no practical problems, sometimes having to make a slight adjustment to their pedaling habits at very slow speeds. On smaller size bikes with full size wheels, it is usually impossible to eliminate overlap without causing adverse fit/handling issues.

Pearson Touche.

+1 Big feet, 58 frame, no-overlap issues for me.

56cm 2009 steamroller + size 10s = no toe overlap.

On One Pompino, Large, loads of clearance:

Volume cutter, had large clips on it, and straps on their own, and no toe overlap issues, hell its even got shitloads of barspin clearance!

Pashley Guvnor, its THE least likely OTP to have overlap. Buy it.

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I've never had a bike that has toe overlap, so I don't know what it really will affect my riding.

After settling on the Flite 100 I read that it suffers from some toe overlap.

Sounds like an unpleasant experience and something you could actually run into if riding the bike in the city and making sharp turns.

Will using clipless pedals (SPD) result in less toe overlap?
Would a larger frame size (I'm looking at size 55) result in less toe overlap?
Does anyone have any experience with toe overlap with this bike/size?

I have some overlap, it's only an issue when you're making really sharp turns going slow. I'd imagine smaller clips or clipless pedals would help.

Toe overlap isn't a design fault.

You'll see you won't get it when riding normally, except at a stupidly tight turn while cycling slowly as Sherms said, once you get used to it, you'll find yourself being able to avoid having toe overlap by calculating the pedal stroke while turning.

You will be able to learn to live with it, it's one of those thing that sound worse than it really is.

SPDs will definitely help. And if you're happy to wear bike shoes whenever on your bike then go for that. I would say that getting a frame that's too big for you to avoid this issue is a bad idea. You'll be stretched out all the time which will be much more of a pain in the ass than the occasional contact between your toes and front wheel. I have just a tad of overlap on my bike, and when it happens it's an easy wriggle out. None of this timing your turns to your pedal stroke stuff. That would be tricky in London traffic no ed?

Toe overlap is the devil. When riding about in the city, half the time you are going slowly and turning sharply to weave through traffic.

I'd compare it to sleeping with a duvet that's too short. Your feet always poke out at the end; you compensate by adjusting your snoozing position but is never quite right. Only when you get a bigger duvet do you realise how annoying, and unnecessary, it really was.

hello....mcfly...anybody home? Did you ever wonder maybe because the bike you are riding was initialy designed to go around a large oval track with no sharp turns?

no.

Vicks NyQuil, there are touring bicycles that actually have some toe overlap as well due to the mudguard and the bigger tyres (which required a bigger mudguard).

It doesn't just occur on track frame.

Don't you ride a bicycle that initially designed to go around a large oval track with no sharp turns as well?

yes.

Regarding toe overlap - I own a road Pinarello bike that is fairly tight (for a road bike).
Never had any problem with cages, nor with SPD-SL.
Recently, I swapped pedals for SPDs and bang! - my foot stuck between the front wheel and the downtube while turning left :-)

Cranks can't change much. 170mm, 165mm? Pedals can do a lot, cleats can be moved...

Actually. As someone who has owned and ridden a KHS Flite 100 - yes. There is some toe overlap.

Fatal amounts of toe overlap? No. Good frames BTW.

As you were with your bitching...

@ OP - I'm assuiming you read that on RCUK?

I wrote that - it's not a big deal at all, it's just that of course there are frames that don't really suffer from it, but they suffer on the handling. But yes spds will help, and also that review was written on a large so there will still be a degree of overlap.

Get the Flite - they're light and fast as fuck, lots of fun as well. Let us know how you get on with it.

My bike suffers from severe toe overlap (about 5 cm).
I've learned to 'toe up' at slow speed, where you angle your foot as you come to the front of the pedal stroke to raise your toe. Once this becomes instinctive, toe overlap doesn't really affect your riding much at all.

I would say if you really like that frame, buy it. You won't notice the overlap once you get used to it. Having a frame that you like/fits you is 1000 x more important.

Just don't go under 10 mph and you won't notice it!

Yes toe overlap is present on many frames, even my cross frame had it. The difficulty (if there is any) is down to the fixed aspect but then so is pedal strike and that never caused me any hassle either.

If you don't want to put up with it then don't ride fixed...