• is it because he cheated and he cheated and his attitude that he displayed (and the way he conducted himself) that drives the hatred?

    i ask, as a niave, if the field was/is level (everyone is at it argument), would it be acceptable for him to volte face and say "sorry". would it then be possible to look at his extremely tough persona/style and think "yeah. he was tough, look at X when he fell off and chased everyone down".

    is he, i think i'm trying to ask, a bit like roy keane? hard, unpopular, skilled, only liked by those who are on the same side?

    (sorry for bringing football into the discussion. i've just been thinking about his attitude and what it reminds me of)

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