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Very very nice.
First time ever that a stayer bike is for sale on LFGSS? -
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how much?
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• #4
how much?
^ "Looking for 950 GBP shipped"
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• #5
WOW just WOW
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• #6
I wonder if you put a regular 650/24" fork on a stayer frame, if it would be alright to ride on the road.
(I'm not suggesting breaking up this beauty)
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This is a great stayer - I bought a De Rosa stayer about 18 months ago, you can see pics here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38007118@N06/sets/72157617639280526/
Here is one taster:
And here's a couple of pics from stayer racing by one of Britain's great stayer, Harry Grant.
Here Harry Grant is at his first successful attempt on the hour motor-paced record at the Parc des Princes, Paris, July 1932 and paced by Leon Vanderstufyt on a massive pacing machine with a roller 60cm behind the rear wheel, he broke the world records for five, 10 and 50km going on to set a new distance for the hour record of 52 miles 215 yards riding a Selbach taper tube pacing machine.
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• #8
Nice De Rosa, Hilary. Also thanks for sharing the pics of yesteryear. Impressive.
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Whats the idea behind the trailer bit on the motorbike? /n00b to time trials
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• #10
Its a roller and is still used in motor paced racing (not with Dernys) and is a specified distance behind the motorbike - the roller is essential as contact is sometimes made between the stayer and motorbike... Can you imagine riding 52 miles in an hour with your wheel just an inch or so behind the roller...
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ahhh awesome I see, I just assumed it was a bar which I thought would be a bit dangerous if they touched it at those speeds! Very cool bit of bike history, Thanks
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• #12
Absolute beauty...
thanks for the photos and history Hilary, Its aways nice to know more about 'stuff', whats the deal with being able to ride these now? would you be able to take it for a spin round herne hill? I wonder what sort of speeds you could get up to without a pace bike and being able to draft the derny...?
it would be a shame just to see it getting polished...though to be fair...i would hate to see it being ridden round east london with skinny black jeans...hate is a strong word...I don't know what I would feel really...I spose a little jealousy but more 'put the damned thing on a track' whatever emotion that is...i do love seeing track stuff on the road , from bikes to cars to whatever...however these just seem that they are just a bit too impractical for the road..Hilary, apart from specials..ie world speed records etc...what was the largest 'standard' size sprocket they have done...?
ps...the biggest chainwheel I have seen was a 62 TA...it was a mofo...he rides arounds currently with a 60... ;D!!! -
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and the rear wheel getting nicked! :)
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Yes you can ride them on any track - they are very easy to ride except for toeclip overlap. The reversed forks give very high trail so they are very stable. I have a Bastide Stayer from 1913 which I have ridden at Herne Hill and on the road in veteran cycle events. Its quite easy to lower the gearing a tad to make it more rideable... with a larger rear sprocket. Speedwise it would depend on your legs and heart!
I don't think Britain has any big motors for stayer racing left now but I believe that it still happens in Germany ... and maybe a few other countries.
Ron Kitching used to advertise large TA chainwheels - certainly as large as 68T - they were used on some 1960s Moulton Specials.
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Spotted this one for sale >>>
What a beast ...and yours for only 13.5K
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Wow! Now that is a pretty special bike!
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• #18
Open for offers
...before it heads to eBay
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Hi,
I'm new to the forum. Is this still for sale? -
• #20
That thing is NUTS! Now where did i stash that grand...
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• #21
Nope ...it Sold to a fellow lfgss member. Alternatively and for the smaller budget I have available >>
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• #22
Dibs chainring if you split
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• #23
okay
btw I did acquire a road frame by one the best derny constructors in the world meanwhile: Mr. Arie Simon.
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I don't think Britain has any big motors for stayer racing left now but I believe that it still happens in Germany ... and maybe a few other countries.
Stayer racing is alive in Britain. We have 10 Triumph Thunderbird Motors at Herne Hill. The only problem being that the track is so well supported we have trouble finding the time to get the motors out!
Nice bikes shown here. Do you have any seat braces Hilary?
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• #25
@ jhl hey i'd be happy to ride the triumph round the track in front of people some time if the above is sarcasm
Offering Gazelle Stayerbike
Designed for the purpose of generating speeds up to 100km/h behind a derny or motor pace bike on the track. Stayers are a very rare breed and this one is a very nice example.
Stayer competitions were extremely popular in the thirties ans still is in some parts of Europe. Stayerbicycles are designed and build according to very strict regulations. For example the distance from front axle to bottom bracket can be no less than 550mm. This is part of the reason why various generations look consistent in their appearance.
This Gazelle Champion Mondial 'stayer fiets' frame is build using full Reynolds 531c tubing, Campagnolo dropouts/track ends and ROTO Italy bottom bracket shell. Most components are from Campagnolo: Campagnolo Pista hub, Pista crankset and bottom bracket. Rear wheel is a Glass Fibre disc example. There is a great quality Hatta Swan headset fitted.
The cockpit and seat nose are reinforced with struts so the rider could position himself as close as possible to the derny.
Features:
Condition:
It is a used bike, but I would rate the condition at good to very good. A couple minor paint damages can be noted as only aesthetical imperfections. Structurally the bike is 100% sound. View the many pics available under the link to form your own impression.
Looking for 950 GBP shipped
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