Touring on a fixed

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  • I use the Carradice SQR quick release fitting with my Saddlebag makes for easier removal when bike parked out of site...less fiddly than the buckles..or i'm probably Lazy!!!

  • Morning all. Myself and a couple of other lads from Ireland are heading off to Amsterdam on Tuesday next for a two week trip through into Belgium and on into France, I'm wondering does anyone know would I get away with just an inner sleeping bag liner ( or is that outer) instead of a sleeping bag? Obviously we'll have tents. I know last year myself and the missus had them going around Colombia sleeping on beaches etc and were fine with them, mind you we're in Europe not South America now.

  • Do you mean just a sleeping bag liner? If you're lucky with the weather you'll be ok but I think it might be a little cold at times, if you don't mind sleeping your cloths as back up though you should be ok, if a little smelly the next day.

  • if a little smelly the next day.

    Matt's always a bit smelly, main reason hes in a one man tent :)

    Currently I've packed about 12 kilos on the back and 3 on the front. Feels ok once you get going when i went for a short spin around the block here, 21km/h into a headwind wasnt a problem.

    This is for a 2 week trip with camping gear.

    Am I crazy or does this seem a reasonable amount of gear to carry?

  • Sound like a lot of weight unless that includes a lot of food and water. I had 15 kg when camping in France with my girlfriend and I carried all the camping gear.

  • Holy thread resurrection Batman!

    Double chainring up front + flip-flop where teeth add up to the same number - anyone done this?
    EG 46/42 chainring with 18 on the fixed side and 22 on the freewheel gives 67" fixed and 51" freewheel for hills

    I'm assuming chainline will have to be a bit off on the freewheel side (3/32" chain required). And I know there'll have to be a little bit of movement in the dropouts even with the matched teeth, but I have pretty long dropouts so that's okay.

    Unless there's some horrible glaring error which makes me look like a complete prat, I'm gonna do this.

  • Or get a Surly Dingle (assuming you don't mind having two fixed, rather than one free wheel - and if you do, get a surly dingle and a free wheel! Three gears!)

  • Surly Dingle on one side, ENO double freewheel on the other. Four gears!

    The ENO doubles are like £70 though.

    Also I don't know if the tooth gaps are enough on the ENO double. Dingles go 17/21 which is enough for about a 20" difference, so enough for hilly areas. The ENOs only have a difference of two teeth which is about 10" difference.

    With a double chainset and single cog/freewheel you can get a massive difference for a hill gear though - e.g. 34/40 chainset and 22/16 flip-flop gives 67" fixed and 41" free.

  • You can have a double chainset that have a smaller jump between ratios, such as 44/46.

  • The problem is that the ENOs and the Dingles are both around the same size (17/19 and 17/21 respectively) - you can't get a 14/16 Dingle and a 20/22 ENO for example. This means you only get a small change between your lowest free gear and your highest fixed gear, which isn't enough for lots of hill climbing.

    E.g 40/44 chainset on the 17/19 ENO = highest 69", lowest 57"

                          on the 17/21 Dingle = 69", 51" assuming your dropouts are long enough. 
    

    Furthermore the biggest ENO is smaller than the biggest Dingle, so your lowest gear will be a fixed gear, which is the opposite of what you want!

    With a single freewheel and a single cog, based on the biggest freewheel (22) and the smallest cog (14) and a corresponding double (28/36) you can get a spinny 34" freewheel and a decent 69" fixed, or anything inbetween.

  • with 4 fixed/freewheels hubs, it should be enough.

  • You might have 4 different rear cogs, but like I explained above, they're all roughly the same size. The lowest freewheel gear (i.e. your hill gear) is only 12" lower than your highest fixed (i.e. your flat road) gear. I personally wouldn't consider that to be enough.

    You'd need long dropouts to do it too. And it assumes that the chainline from the outermost chainring to the innermost cog won't cause issues, even with a 3/32 chain it's a big jump for a fixed gear.

  • Need some helps.

    I'm getting an old frame that's suitable for quick randonnees/light touring, I happen to have an Nexus 8 speeds touring wheels build up already, was going to get bar end shifter but realise the price for one is pretty high;

    http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/8-speed-jtek-bar-end-shifter-for-shimano-alfine-and-nexus-internal-hubs-right-hand-prod19504/?src=froogle

    Is it worth it? or is there's better alternative? (I'm using drop bar just so you know), and probably need to respace the hubs from 130 to 126mm. for the 118mm width on the frame.

  • There were some bodges done for the Rohloffs, ie the twist grip on a piece of dowelling attached to the head tube or the lower part of the bar. Why you rarely see a Rohloff and drops

    If you look @ old Moulton six speeds with drops I think they put the trigger on the top of the drops next to the stem.

    They also used to put 3 speed triggers on the bottom of the bend of the drops-

    None of them were satisfactory and I suspect you would have problems with tube and clamp diameters now

    but those bar end shifter look right, and cheaper than STI...

  • Is the frame ahead stem? If so and you have enough steer tube.

    one of these under your normal stem with the shifter on.

    http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/thorn-thorn-accessory-bar-t-shaped-105-mm-extension-0-deg-prod11040/

    there is a shorter 55 mm length one too.

  • Sturmey got bar ends for 3 and 5 speeds.

    Sheldon site got pics of drop bar + twist shifter confs. Googl'em.

  • as anyone had any experiance using one of these:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tubus-clamp-set-for-seat-stay-mounting/
    and one of these:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tubus-adapter-set-for-qr-axle-mounting/

    i want to put a rack with two panniers on a bike without eyelets, thinking the above is a solution? anyone know of a better idea or do thes work?

  • The pal I rode in Japan with used those Tubus axle and seat stay mounts. He had no problems with the setup at all. He took a fair bit with him too. Looked solid.

  • The pal I rode in Japan with used those Tubus axle and seat stay mounts. He had no problems with the setup at all. He took a fair bit with him too. Looked solid.

    cheers. that's what i thought, it is either this or a new frame!

  • Will be touring from Bristol to London in August and a few weekend tours before to test kit out. This thread has been a great help!
    Sorry for Grave digging.

  • This should be good for routes and whatnot

    http://www.lfgss.com/thread47493.html

  • Awesome frame on the bike in the middle - looks like it's tensioned with steel cable, like a Slingshot frame.

    Also, footpegs for freewheeling on a fixed. New trend for 2012?

  • possibly, or rack;

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