Watch out for douchebags trying to clothes line you

Sorry I dont live in the area. But if I was a few of you guys living/cycling that area I'd group up for a few nights and try to set up a trap for the bastards. It will mean one person being the 'bait' but have you buddies in close support and beat the living shit out of the fuckers...they'll learn not to mess with cyclists that way.

yeah or they'll just waste your mates or pull some knives out.

not worth it for a couple of punches I would say.

There was a thread about this happening in Peckham and Burgess Park recently too.

Terrible!

Sorry I dont live in the area. But if I was a few of you guys living/cycling that area I'd group up for a few nights and try to set up a trap for the bastards. It will mean one person being the 'bait' but have you buddies in close support and beat the living shit out of the fuckers...they'll learn not to mess with cyclists that way.

Is this in the same way that when a gang attacks or kills a rival gang member the rival gang think jeesus these guys mean business we realy better not to do anything to retaliate...

Need one of these, with cutting blades at the bottom :

Yeah well its just my advice...believe me, the police dont give a fuck and these little fuckers will carry on jacking cyclists if they know its easy and theres no pain.

I say bring the PAIN...and when I say pain I mean cripple the fucking bastards so they cant fucking walk again!

need one of these, with cutting blades at the bottom :

win!

My mate just sent me this one too.

NEED.

This is the reason I will move back to Berlin sooner or later. Of course we have crime there as well, but it's far away from this insane brutality of London and it's limited to certain remote areas instead of spreading over the whole city.

What is wrong with these young guys in London, where is this absolutely non-human, horrible brutality coming from?

'insane brutality of London' seems a bit extreme.

This is the reason I will move back to Berlin sooner or later. Of course we have crime there as well, but it's far away from this insane brutality of London and it's limited to certain remote areas instead of spreading over the whole city.

What is wrong with these young guys in London, where is this absolutely non-human, horrible brutality coming from?

It's not spreading over the whole city; these incidents are very very rare. And there are a lot more people cycling now so the opportunities have increased; the number of violent young men (and it is generally men so maybe that is what we should be thinking about?) hasn't necessarily increased; we just notice them more because now they are attacking us, the us in this case being cyclists.

My mate just sent me this one too.

NEED.

oscc

I'm not so sure if you can call this "very very rare", you might think it's rare just because you got used to hear these stories, but actually there is a problem if you start thinking about how many people you know who can tell similar stories (including myself).

these incidents are very very rare.

In comparison to what?

Being attacked by Morris men wielding courgettes is "very very rare" scumbag kids attacking folk isn't. They've been doing it all over London for ages, to cyclists, pedestrians, whatever.

In my experience, Morris men are to be avoided whether armed with vegetables or not.

Damn right Clive. You don't have to believe in them, but whatever you do, never mock them!

In comparison to what?

Being attacked by Morris men wielding courgettes is "very very rare" scumbag kids attacking folk isn't. They've been doing it all over London for ages, to cyclists, pedestrians, whatever.

Morris dancing's fucking lethal, trust me......

I'd love to see a group of Vigilantes 'The Morris Men' who suprise gangs in the middle of the night clockwork orange style to deal out some justice...

Thinks about making film

I'm not so sure if you can call this "very very rare", you might think it's rare just because you got used to hear these stories, but actually there is a problem if you start thinking about how many people you know who can tell similar stories (including myself).

kind of.

What Will meant is that it appear like a big problem because we made a huge deal about it.

Think about the (untimely) death of cyclist per years, we get upset and devastated by that, but even so, the number still remain very small (15 death per years), that's a lots smaller than the rumoured NYC rate of one per weeks* if that to be believe.

*I'm trying to find that out, friends from NYC kept saying that line, but I can't seemed to find a source, doesn't sound likely though.

edscoble, you're comparing deaths by riding your bike in a city to being attacked, which doesn't make much sense.

Personally, and forgive my wild, out there thinking, I always think statistics should be based on something more substantial than opinion...

I didn't mention statistics, you did.

it's an example, the way we talk about it, you could be forgiven to think there's at least 100+ death a years, while in reality it's still pretty small.

I find the validity of statistics on the ropey side. I prefer going on what I actually see myself, and perhaps I'm unfortunate but in all my time in London, I've witnessed a dramatic change in this city.

just to wade in, there obviously shitty teens/ young adults

there have been problems with kids like this for years, when your in a group of cyclists, it will feel like there targeting cyclists, but i think if the OP had been walking they would have tried the same thing,

there opportunists looking to get as much stuff to as possible, there backgrounds we don't know, but only assume. the only thing i've noticed perhaps, is in a bigger city, the crimes are more violent. but in every large town there are gangs of kids intent on taking stuff form vulnerable people.

Whilst I agree with Ed a lot of people don't report bike jackings and they certainly don't get the news coverage of a cyclist death.