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    and now I have asked you to disprove the ionic wind...I have have asked for links, they say use google...they must be a fraud.

    So...you post your damning links...and I'll post mine. til then there is google...I tend not to use wiki as it's a little biased...people that use it tend to say...if it's not in wiki it doesn't exist...

    I posted a link that actually argues in favour of an ionic-wind effect. Yes it was wikipedia, but it then goes on to post it's references:

    References

    ^ Robinson, M. (1962, May). History of the electric wind. American Journal of Physics, 30(5), 366-372.
    ^ Robinson, M. (1960, June 8). Movement of Air in the Electric Wind of the Corona Discharge. (AD0262830)

    At least the first of these papers appeared in a peer reviewed scientific journal. One that would certainly not approve the statement that the earth's gravity is actually a magnetic field caused by it's rotation. We could test that of course, by submitting such a claim to the journal in question.

    I like the ionic wind theory and effect. It is cool and interesting and I have learned something today. No thanks to you, other than by happen chance, I suspect.

    El Guapo is right, this is probably a boring conversation for most people reading this, Tynan, edscoble, Sainsbury's Ed, horatio etc excepted. I am more than happy to move this over to a new thread, if you fancy carrying this on?

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