2010 Herne Hill Velodrome Track League

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  • And there was another one at the edges, watching.

    I thought I saw you there and was gonna come over but I think you left (or my brain fuzzled after the IP)

  • I'll do some stats at the end of the season - including points by name ranking. The Tom's might have to pick up their game if they want to catch the Simon's.

    my money's on Symon and Bryan coming top 2.

  • Nice one.

    Interesting to see that both our times were significantly slower than the Rollaz track day times. Similar deal with the pursuit times, shows what a difference the weather and a hard days work makes to performance

    Exactly. And, also, the 200 was the first event at the RLPZ/GRPTT (after a warm up). I definitely felt slower last week as I was doing it, with less juice in the legs.

    Out of interest, what sort of times are possible on that track? I have no idea what a really fast time is.

  • I think Marty Nothstein has the track record from Good Friday some years ago. No idea what it is though!

    As any sprinter will moan at you, we only had half a lap wind up, so given longer, the times would be faster.

  • Matt Crampton did a 10 something in 2008, I think you'd be hard pushed to break any records that were set when the surface was newer.

  • I've seen two 10.9's there Crampton and Northstein. Not sure the wind up lap makes much difference if I'm honest. My pb there is 11.8 on a day when it was about 10c.

    Re the times being different, wind and temp make a huge difference. On an indoor track 1c is 0.012 of a second over 200m. So the difference between 20c and 30c is over a tenth of a second per 200m, 0.6 per kilo so nearly 2 seconds for a 3k pursuit. Add wind and differing air pressure and times can be massively affected!

  • Not sure the wind up lap makes much difference if I'm honest.

    I'd agree that 1/2 a lap (starting from back straight like GF) compared to a lap doesn't make a huge amount of difference to times or feel.

    But this is completely different, around 3-4/10th of a second slower and feels like a much harder effort if you are used to a "normal" 200.

    Maybe with practice, some riders could reduce the differential to a negligible amount, but for a pure sprinter a good bulk of their ATP-Pcr system is getting hammered having to go from 0mph to 20mph in 50 metres instead of essentially having that in the bank from "free" speed.

  • Don't forget Humidity.The higher the humidity the less dense the air is.

  • Also, would anyone like to claim to be 5th in the Warm up race? I was given number 16 - which was Connor - who didn't race.

            1st   S5   Stuart   Hourigan
    

    2nd Sx52 Keith Coffey
    3rd S68 Neil Irons
    4th S11 James Solly

      5th   S16?   ?
    

    6th S12 Chris Cole

    Also, I haven't got any results for the A 3 lap dash. Any ideas?

    Do you have positions below 6th? Might help work things out. There was a huge line of us that came across between about 5th and 10th if I remember correctly. I could have been up there but not confident enough to lay claim to the points.

    3 lap dash result looks about right.
    Dunno who was 5th in the opener but the huge line that came across "about 5th - 10th" was further back. There was the front 6, then me (7th) then a big mass of riders in a line. Could it have meant to be #18 Mike C? could look like 16 and would make sense.

  • Understandable. Mike? You want the points?

  • Hi JC, not sure I did come 5th in the warm up, but either way, I seem to have lost all my points from before and should be on at least about 19!

  • ANyone have a programme for tonight?

  • Sprints as advertised - don't forget to sign on for them if you want to race. Programmes will be freshly printed on the sign on table.

  • now cant make it tonight guys sorry, hope you have fun on this lovely sunny day without me :-(

  • That's a shame Lee :)

  • can't seem to shake overwhelming tiredness / feeling slightly off-colour / sense of gloom so am out this week. have fun!

  • ^I get that ;(

    Hope you feel better soon.

  • can't seem to shake overwhelming tiredness / feeling slightly off-colour / sense of gloom so am out this week. have fun!

    I think that is a common thing you know.
    I so want to go and get pissed :)

  • can't seem to shake overwhelming tiredness / feeling slightly off-colour / sense of gloom

    ^this

  • I think that is a common thing you know.
    I so want to go and get pissed :)

    ^this

  • Rob are you coming tonight?

  • what have I started?! I got the 'ill reaction' after a couple of sprints coming home on Monday and have had a achey neck so I think it's some kind of low-level bug (though not a bitey type one). I usually feel a bit gloomy when ill also, so that fits.

    booze - am almost off it at the moment but it's made the odd ale (Badger) taste all the sweeter.

  • Rob are you coming tonight?

    No, I am exhausted and not feeling great.

  • My legs are really tired after last night.
    Lots of sprinting going on. Though I got caught napping in the match sprint :(
    Another nasty crash, but only involving one person too

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