Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

well looking a that picture I can tell you that those forks were made for a metallic blue Reynolds 853 track frame by Brian Rourke in 1987 for Mongolian track rider Nonexis Tant.

Ask the seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-straight-chromed-track-pista-forks-UNDRILLED-fixed-/220552642575?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3359f6400f#ht_6195wt_1061

Which is Roberto by the way :-)

These forks were custom made

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertomedeiros/sets/72157594565259328/

Colderosaspokcinellinago spokenforks. £3,000,000 and up depending on market.

those are expensive unbranded forks!

Thanks fellas. Found the pic on a google image search but couldn't find them!

I dont know who made them, but I want!

Ok so here we have a nicely lugged small frame done over with a VERY heavy coat of awful paint. It bears the Harrison logo, apparently it was used as this store's team frame?
There's no frame number at the moment (it could be under the heavy duty paint) the only identifiable features are the ornate lugs and detailing on the forks.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Cheers

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harrison were a company based in peckham (best bit of landan!)

seems odd that someone would put a harrsion decal on a bike if it werent one? not exatly the most common of decals to have laying about the house...unless of course you put that on?

Not odd at all when other company often get their frame build from other company, like Peugeot did with their track frame.

but that frame defintely look like it been painted by an idiot, even the headset!

well failing that my second guess is...the first image of two bikes, the one on the left looks pretty close.

http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/details/lugwork.htm

at least the lugs and forks are the same....

Since it been heavily painted over, perhaps the original paintjob can be salvage, not sure how that can be done though.

Well, the guy i bought it from did the spray job (rattle can with at least 168 layers). It has harrison decals on it, however he believes this was from a team run by a shop in cornwall. He has no idea what the frame was before it was restickered, helpfully... So any help would be appreciated. The lugs do seem to be raleigh/carlton, however seem quite ornate.

well failing that my second guess is...the first image of two bikes, the one on the left looks pretty close.

http://www.carltoncycles.me.uk/details/lugwork.htm

I think that's right. The seatstay detail looks like a typical Carlton finishing. Mine's a full wrapround, which I think looks fabulous, but the only frames I can think of that had that sort of taper are Carlton and, to a lesser extent, Orbit, though the date would be wrong for that.

If it's a Carlton, it's probably a well-built frame, though they did make a few dogs.

It is noticably light...

From the evidence of the pictures this frame could have been made by almost any small frame builder.
The Nervex 'fishtail' lugs were very popular in from the late fifties well into the sixties. I guess the forks are not original and look more modern. I also suspect the frame has had some alterations e.g. the top tube cable guides are probably a later addition, and possibly the chainstay bridge. Is it a 27" wheel frame cut down to take 700's? (hence new forks). It would be interesting to see the rear fork ends - are they the old type with the longer slot?

None of this means the frame won't make an excellent bike. Just get rid of that horrible paint and enjoy it.

From the evidence of the pictures this frame could have been made by almost any small frame builder.
The Nervex 'fishtail' lugs were very popular in from the late fifties well into the sixties. I guess the forks are not original and look more modern. I also suspect the frame has had some alterations e.g. the top tube cable guides are probably a later addition, and possibly the chainstay bridge. Is it a 27" wheel frame cut down to take 700's? (hence new forks). It would be interesting to see the rear fork ends - are they the old type with the longer slot?

None of this means the frame won't make an excellent bike. Just get rid of that horrible paint and enjoy it.

Have to agree with clubman...they are nervex pro lugs...and to show you they are the later models (ie not 40's more like later 50's) , they have a fishtail in the middle of the lug rather than horns...and as the fishtail is quite small and neat ...rather than flat and squashed, it's more like late 50's rather than late 70's...cause frames were still being made with these lugs until the 80's.

which means it's 60's or so...the forks are newer...and possibly 70's italian with the crowns inside having the long pointed section with the little round cut outs...as clubman says...what are the rear drop outs like...are they track? ...road? ...long? campag? if so it is surely 60's if they are longer...if shorter ...ie more like 25mm than 40...that helps you date it further, to the 70's. what are the clearances like? is it tight? or room for mudguards?

take the paint of carefully...as ed says...you still may find the original paint underneath.

Hello peoples, I was too wondering if you could help identify a frame! It's a holdsworth, the no' stamped is 6903, its brazed, I have been told its from the 50's......anyone help?

Hello peoples, I was too wondering if you could help identify a frame! It's a holdsworth, the no' stamped is 6903, its brazed, I have been told its from the 50's......anyone help?

stick it in a new thread and add some pictures - saves confusion
and you can chekc this website too:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/nkilgariff/

Post the pic, clearly showing the serial number, to a web-based discussion forum. One of the enthusiasts should be able to help you date it.
If you want to ID the model, also post close-up pics of key ID features, like headlugs, seatlug, fork crown, dropouts, decals if in original finish, headbadge etc. The easier you make it for folk to help you, the more likely they are to try.

On ID enquiries, I found that **10 **to 20% of the serials sent to me proved, once the forks were pulled, to be inaccurate. Usually there were wrong or missing digits. Much of my time and effort was wasted analysing wrong data. Sorry, but this is not for me. No email with questions please.

Check the fork steerer to confirm that number ... take some decent pictures, particularly of any helpful details (funky seat stay eyes/wrapover? fancy chainstay bridge? anything unusual...)

Then get thee to a RetroBike forum or similar.

ok thanks!

Hello peoples, I was too wondering if you could help identify a frame! It's a holdsworth, the no' stamped is 6903, its brazed, I have been told its from the 50's......anyone help please!

I have attached some photo's, they aren't brilliant but should help!

Many thanks,

David

Can't see any photos...

A great start for tracking down your Holdsworth…

NKilgariff