Lance Armstrong... greatest doper there was or ever will be

yet more proof of nothing. thanks for linking us to that :D

Thats just it though. The mainstream media, that are wholly owned and controlled can cry 'conspiracy' to anything...it doesn't then matter what evidence stands, be it incredibly damning, the seed of doubt has been planted. So...regardless of whatever facts are then brought to light, no matter how serious or incendiary, how damaging or unbelieveable to the mainstream followers of said press, they can always call them into doubt. It doesn't matter one jot if the facts are there, foul play is called.

Back to the Op...is Armstrong good? yes...is he a Great...? No. The stink around him being an arrogant, egotistical wanker, regardless of what he has won..detracts from that. He's a liar and a bully to boot, and if people can't see that in him ...they have never been bullied.
and can we also leave out cancer? Lots of people beat cancer, My mother and father for two...if he had never cycled had cancer then won the tour...ok..whoopee...though after you have cancer...you do what you did before...He's a professional cyclist...go figure.

Back to Lance...Does he compare to the bonkersness of Coppi...?

The character of Magni? Cycling with a broken collarbone and femur? through snow? with an inner tube tied to the bars as an extra hand...which after a while on his descent, wasn't strong enough, so whilst skidding braking one handed...he falls off and breaks his hip...what did he do...continue...whilst the rest of the peleton got off and had hot chocolate cause they were getting hypothermia...he carried on...and came second?(or third) wtf?

Merckx...the cannibal...winning abso-fucking-lutely everything...twice...three times? four? five?

Daddy Wayne had it right earlier.

He's ok...though he's a cunt...please don't attach some mythical sainthood to him. He's rich white guy that earned ridiculous amounts of sponsorship from globalized Corporations that exploit developing nations to make bullshit consumer goods.

If those that are sainting him, are...? I'd hate to see the rest of your saints?