General Election 2010

. . . . there is no acceptable scientific way to define race and that therefore we should accept that the term is a convenient shorthand, at best.

Yes, that's my point.

No need for 'at best' either as people don't (typically) hold racist views on scientific basis, so shorthand is all we need.

Otherwise we move into Jim Watson territory. I've met him, and he seemed like a nice old man (we had a short conversation in CSHL about tennis) but his views on race are some of the stupidest that I've ever heard.

How are you using the word 'race' here ?

[falls off chair]