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@Turd_Fergurson
cheers rik. i used to ride v12's on my jump bike but they're so expensive these days... i almost bought some twisted gusset ones as evans owe me £15 and they're £15 i just wasn't sure if making the hole wouldn't be detrimental to the strength of them but i think i'm going to grab them on the way to the studio as they're basically free seems as i got the £15 thing.