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andy.w thanks for that. i wonder if they'll do the complete range. for years i always thought all their watches were of super simple design with non cluttered dials and am always amazed at how busy the dials got. the ones i have are the cheaper (relatively speaking) simpler dials and one that looks like it was free with petrol
if you like braun i just found this.
http://www.timedesign.de/home_e.html?braun_e.html