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  • The best thing we can do here is take note of what is going on in reality, have some mutual understanding, and try to avoid more deaths/injuries. This is far more productive than passionately advocating for some kind of commuter utopia where 'good' always prevails...

    no need to wait for any commuter utopia. Education is quite effective to foster mutual understanding,. massive subsidised training of cyclists, and on-bike training and cyclist awareness sessions for lorry drivers

    Which is already beginning to happen check out this scheme in Lambeth for hgv (and all essesntial) drivers which is being taken up by other boroughs
    http://www.cycletraining.co.uk/news/2008/11/post.php
    and accross london for cyclists
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11689.aspx

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