i am going to chime in again. ms. angel, you keep suggesting that we are ignorant people who wouldn't be able to see something fishy if it was obvious. i think this is what irks people. people have a right to be angry when someone who they have never met, and has no idea of their life experience, is categorically ruling them to be less knowlegeable about the workings of government than themselves. nobody here believes the government doesn't lie. the government is made of people, and people lie, especially those with vested interests. that is not what is disputed. what is disputed is your tin-foil hat theories that you insist people believe without telling them why they should believe it, and that if they don't believe it they are zombies. this smacks of fanatical ideological coercion, similar to that of the chinese "thought reform" campaign of the 1950's. the following is not meant as a skeptical question, but what direct experience have you had of the workings of government? i.e. have you ever been a counciller, written your MP, organised demonstrations, been involved with the police?
also, it is quite annoying that you have derailed a thread that was supposed to be about the political philosophy of anarchism (ya know, if you went to a university, you could study it properly...), and instead used it as a platform for your uncredible theories (and still, providing no links, even as requested by the OP), which have nothing to do with anarchistic theory, and you must have known this is the reaction you would have got (look at last week, UTFS), which makes you appear ignorant and/or attention-seeking.
i am going to chime in again. ms. angel, you keep suggesting that we are ignorant people who wouldn't be able to see something fishy if it was obvious. i think this is what irks people. people have a right to be angry when someone who they have never met, and has no idea of their life experience, is categorically ruling them to be less knowlegeable about the workings of government than themselves. nobody here believes the government doesn't lie. the government is made of people, and people lie, especially those with vested interests. that is not what is disputed. what is disputed is your tin-foil hat theories that you insist people believe without telling them why they should believe it, and that if they don't believe it they are zombies. this smacks of fanatical ideological coercion, similar to that of the chinese "thought reform" campaign of the 1950's. the following is not meant as a skeptical question, but what direct experience have you had of the workings of government? i.e. have you ever been a counciller, written your MP, organised demonstrations, been involved with the police?
also, it is quite annoying that you have derailed a thread that was supposed to be about the political philosophy of anarchism (ya know, if you went to a university, you could study it properly...), and instead used it as a platform for your uncredible theories (and still, providing no links, even as requested by the OP), which have nothing to do with anarchistic theory, and you must have known this is the reaction you would have got (look at last week, UTFS), which makes you appear ignorant and/or attention-seeking.