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  • get a fit done and then chose
    make the decision on something that matters, not the fucking logo on the groupset or the colour of the bar tape

    This is why I posted a list of budget carbon bikes with varying geometry, then a list of quality alu bikes with varying geometry.
    It is possible to achieve near custom fit if you are (A) lucky, (B) know the geometry you need, and (C) look at enough OTP bikes/frames.

    we all know red is fastest

    Good point.

    Top tips.

    1) Red is unbeatable when combined white contact points.
    2) The better the bike the lower the spoke count.
    3) glossy white finishing kit weighs less than black, which itself weighs less than plain metal.

    Hope these help.

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