Android phones, apps and tablets

if the symbian people don't see android and iphone os as threatening competitors then I am very surprised. which is par for the course.

You mean Nokia right... don't they own the lions share of Symbian?

And they do... hence Nokia and Apple being involved in a legal case of their own.

The real winner is probably Palm, who have a patent arsenal on the older smartphones that could probably take down any of these upstarts.

Palm also look very cheap at the moment.