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  • oh i see see what you mean now, yeah, two men could never lift one and a half frames between them.

    ...uh that's one wheel, assuming it's a bike, it has two of those, so that's almost 7 kilos just from the wheels, plus the frame which are usually ridiculously heavy and all the other stuff on them I wouldn't be surprised if they were around 25kg, which when it's as bulky as a Dutch bike, can be quite hard to carry for a substantial distance.

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