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• #52
And sterilised
Yes sterilise the gay enablers.
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• #53
one of the best parts of cycling is the apparent anonymity.
people surveillance = viable phd topic, but scary realityI enjoyed this anonymity this morning. Overtaking / RLJing a Camden CCTV Smart Car on West End Lane.
*Not a real RLJ, as it was road works.
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• #54
Looks like Gordon's found the solution to the fuck knows how many billion deficit the BMW drivers have racked up and this is the PR build up... Can anyone remember doing their cycling proficiency badge at primary school? Imagine if you had to pay to do it... then pay for the theory test... then pay for the license... then pay to renew the license or get a copy every time you lost it... then pay to register your bikes... oh god. nooooo....
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• #55
yawn
catch it, cover it, clean it mate.. we can stop the spread of disease if we work together
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• #56
Covert state surveillance takes another step forward:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/23/cctv-sky-police-plan-drones
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• #57
This is wrong and must be stopped.
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• #58
darn. beaten by tynan by just a matter of hours..
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• #59
He's been watching your movements and anticipating your every step.
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• #60
Covert state surveillance takes another step forward:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/23/cctv-sky-police-plan-drones
"for the "routine" monitoring of antisocial motorists, protesters, agricultural thieves and fly-tippers" ??
they seemingly forgot to mention luddites and vagrants in listing whom shall occupy the gaze :/
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• #61
BAe should invent an army blimp to monitor antisocial posting on Internet bike forums.
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• #62
Pigs can fly.
Athangyew
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• #63
This is wrong and must be stopped.
And this is how.
http://www.eliteukforces.info/special-air-service/weapons/stinger.php
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• #64
It's alright: on previous form, the drones will spend their whole time monitoring wedding receptions instead of public demonstrations.
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• #65
Covert state surveillance takes another step forward:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/23/cctv-sky-police-plan-drones
what's wrong with walking the beat? it's a rare sign to see a police officier on the streets nowadays.
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• #66
"for the "routine" monitoring of antisocial motorists, protesters, agricultural thieves and fly-tippers" ??
they seemingly forgot to mention luddites and vagrants in listing whom shall occupy the gaze :/
It will - as recent history has repeatedly shown - be extended if found to be useful, regardless of any guarantees that it will not be subject to function creep you can quite confidently gamble your life on that very outcome.
One of the most disturbing elements is this insistence of listing protesters amongst criminals - much the same way that street photography is now seen by the public (and treated by the police) as something nefarious - something to be curtailed and prohibited - the act of protesting is slowly being made look like a minor crime in the public's eye.
The police have already rebranded lawful protest as 'domestic extremism' - and now detain and log the details of law abiding citizens at even the most innocuous protests as if a crime had been committed by attending a march.
As the months go by and more and more apparatus of a surveillance/police state is put in place, protest seems to feature as often as terrorist as a target.
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• #67
I liked the comment from matey on there though 'he wasn't nearly killed, there was no collision by his own account. Saying he was nearly killed by the cyclist makes as much sense as saying he was nearly raped by the cyclist'.
He would've been if it was me. Coppers eh? Phowar.
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• #68
and now detain and log the details of law abiding citizens at even the most innocuous protests as if a crime had been committed by attending a march.
yes exactly. and what seems to accompany the rise of surveillance societies is that not merely is physical police power (the actual invigilance of the police officer) vital, but an of archive of information to support its physicality is created - as you say.
its all about advancing the limits of what can be known about those deemed as deviant populations by storing information about those who (apparently) should be watched.
the satellite blimp thingy also seems to be an attempt to make visible the gaze of the state - though it might seem covert, if citizens all know they are being watched, the object becomes that people regulate their own behaviour without the intervening influence of state authority. This is the notion anyway.
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• #69
With the correct legislation and use of technology we could easily track everyone and make life practically impossible for anyone who tries to live "outside the system". Or would you have the pedos running the streets free to molest the children as they are now? Is that what you want, because that is what you are saying?
equating opposition to total state surveillance with wanting paedos running the streets is either an attempt of satire, or just plain idiocy.
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• #70
The former
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• #71
equating opposition to total state surveillance with wanting paedos running the streets is either an attempt of satire, or just plain idiocy.
/sigh :)
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• #72
/sigh :)
I'm hungover, I'm not in it
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• #73
the satellite blimp thingy also seems to be an attempt to make visible the gaze of the state - though it might seem covert, if citizens all know they are being watched, the object becomes that people regulate their own behaviour without the intervening influence of state authority. This is the notion anyway.
I am not too sure that the surveillance drones are likely to look like that blimp, they are more like tiny unmanned aeroplanes - and will be operated at around 20,000ft - which is out of the range of sight of someone on the ground - but I do agree a large part of surveillance is to instil in people the sense that the state is watching them everywhere and all the time - and like you say this leads to society regulating it's behaviour.
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• #74
the police seem to be out of control at the moment.
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• #75
Very out of control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-La714aW4U4