What's the big fuss about Campag?

The 2010 Force does look like a huge bargain at only £50 extra over 6700. Not sure how they've upgraded it and cut the price, maybe they've decide that Force is going to be the big seller as OEM and are getting economies of scale. Lots of bling to sell on the bike shop floor if you're comparing Force against Ultegra.

The weird thing is that it competes very well with the red groupset. Oops.

I've noticed it on a lot of mid range OTP road bikes. It seems a good OEM choice, as it still has some novelty value, and it helps keep the bikes weight down. Apparantly its tougher for 2010 too.

Chorus is heavier, more expensive, and less compatible (thinking BB30, and free hubs) than force. I just like the shape and functionality.

I'm confused, do you want BB30 cups or not? If so Campag do them.

BB30 technology increase the stiffness at the bb area, i can't see any reason to change
one of the top cranksets just for the mounting measures...
I think that they explain their way well enough.

Was hoping to. Cant find any info on Campag compatible freehubs though :(

Hope would be another option (Already have some MTN Hope hubs). They have eventually made their hubs Campag compatible, but now say that they are not 11 speed compatible (which I dont really understand).

Ho-hum. The luxury of poverty has granted me time to look around.

Royce ?

I'm confused, do you want BB30 cups or not? If so Campag do them.

I've been tempted by a few uber light+stiff, BB30 frames, and Sram seem to be the only groupset producers, really explioting the BB30 technology. The campag BB30 cups, are more like adaptors than a fully developed BB30 system (IMHO).

Royce ?

Are high on my list. Just a little pricey.

The 240s are priced around the same as the Tune 180s. Both of which are only slightly less expensive then getting some Royce hubs, tricky.

The campag BB30 cups, are more like adaptors than a fully developed BB30 system (IMHO).

Campag have decided, correctly, to press the bearings to the expensive part (crank/axle assembly) and let if float in the cheap part (cups). When the complete BB assembly gets dirty and wobbles about, the soft cheap cups will get destroyed. All the other external BB systems press the bearings into the cups and let them float on the axle, which means the axle will wear before the cups. I suppose now that BB30 is using the frame directly as the cups, they have at least got the press fit in the most expensive component, but it still seems less robust in the long term than the Campag system, because the frame material is much softer than the bearing shell, and there will be wear every time the bearings are replaced. With Campag, bearing replacement involves pressing a steel bearing onto a steel shaft, so they should be good for many more replacement cycles before the interference fit wears out.

Campag have decided, correctly, to press the bearings to the expensive part (crank/axle assembly) and let if float in the cheap part (cups). When the complete BB assembly gets dirty and wobbles about, the soft cheap cups will get destroyed. All the other external BB systems press the bearings into the cups and let them float on the axle, which means the axle will wear before the cups.

I was'nt aware of that^ interesting. The point I was trying to make was that campagnolo not developed a separate crankset for BB30 use. They have simply bought out an improved version of their BB cups.

Mac or PC?

do campag users favour mac, and shimano PC? or is it the other way round?

Mac or PC?

do campag users favour mac, and shimano PC? or is it the other way round?

I favour Shimano and Mac. Let the arguments commence.

Vintage Campagnolo & Modern PCs

Campagnolo and Linux... or perhaps Solaris or FreeBSD.

Hell, I'm just happy with a command line and a copy of Lynx.

Shimano / Campagnolo... who's likes Marmite ??

who's likes Marmite ??

You make me sick.

mac and shimano

I thought you were more speak n spell and sturmy.

Or is that Skully?

Campagnolo and hackintosh

[QUOTE=Manc Ronnie]Royce ?

Are high on my list. Just a little pricey.[/quote]

Nice though

Campag and peanut butter.

Nice though

Worth the money from what Ive heard. Just pricey relative to my pocket :(

SRAM and AMD powered PC

The weird thing is that it competes very well with the red groupset. Oops.

Not really "oops". Not many DuraAce/Record/Red buyers are going to trade down to second tier groupsets because they are the kind of people who want the top of the range come what may, so it doesn't matter to them that Ultegra/Chorus/Force provides the same function with only a few ounces of extra weight at little over half the price. It is important to the manufacturers to have reviews which say the second tier groupsets are basically just as good as the top of the range, because second tier is where the profit is made in OEM sales.

Campag and payphones...

Mektronic & Morse Code

Anything else is iFanboy shite and prone to premature emasculation.

*Last edited by jaygee; 23 Minutes Ago at 02:13. Reason: groupset should be different *

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