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Where's the threats and insults? where's the lawsuits?
pah. far too polite and measured, so i'll be nice.
as far as our prices are concerned I really wish I could get old racers for 20 pounds. If you can get me these frame for around 20 - 30 pounds then I ll be buying plenty from you. And if you know someone that can strip down, sand-blast and powder-coat a frame for 40 pounds then let's do business!
Hilary stone and others regularly sell frames for £30 odd quid, you can pick them up for less at bike jumbles.here's a post with armourtex's prices on:
http://www.lfgss.com/post566647-16.htmlIt's cheaper out of town, we have had frames p/coated for £30 each in Devon, besides you appear to do so many a bulk discount would be likely.
And new stuff at 50% off retail price, again I really wish it was so! And again I am not sure if people are taking into account when looking at my prices the 12 months warranty, taxes and overheads.
Everything else I googled, charge what you want of course, but don't expect anyone with half a brain and an internet connection to believe your justification. Far better to simply peddle your wares without trying to tell us that you pay double RRP for your parts.
Please change your title, this is not and never will be a track bike, even if you charge the "extra £20 to convert it to fixed" the bottom bracket will still be too low for use on a velodrome.
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- Edscoble, you are right, you can get hold of a Fuji for 400 but then you ll need to add another 100 to put some brakes on.
what the hell? £100 for a brakes? a ***hundred ***squiddy?!
As an example with cars you can get yourself a brand new Ford Fiesta or for the same money a nice piece of history like a vintage MG. At the end of the day it's a matter of personal preference but I think you can appreciate that for a bespoke custom build people are prepared to pay a bit more than a factory made OTP.
Regarding the cars comparison, naturally it's always nice to get a nice piece of history like an old MG (despite being more unreilable, drink more fuel, expensive insurance, expensive to run, etc.), unfortuantely, your 'vintage' bicycle are merely the equation of British Leyland's greatest piece of art otherwise known as the Morris Ital replacing the old component with cheap aftermarket one and powdercoating it in gorgeous baby blue;
As you were.
- Edscoble, you are right, you can get hold of a Fuji for 400 but then you ll need to add another 100 to put some brakes on.
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with respect, there are plenty of people out there who arent anything to do with the trade (other than being comsumers)who have something to say about what you are up to. i pointed out the bent forks and have done so on other angel fire bikes and i make my living far away from the bike trade. many of the points make great deal of sense to me and we all know where beauty lies so lots of people will have something to say about the looks of your builds.
having said that, fair play for popping in and saying whats what. for those that like what you do, game on. good luck and all that. from what i understand its not that easy to make a living from this type of thing, and it good that you are seeking to improve and keep an eye on feedback. just make sure you check the forks and keep the bikes safe. and by the looks of a couple of suggestions you could do well to do some research and work smarter, helping you reduce prices, keep your margins and maybe people will lay off you a bit.
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I agree with the MG analogy - however it would be more apt to use an MG Metro for comparison when referring to the frames in question.
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bespoke [bɪˈspəʊk]
adj Chiefly Brit- (esp of a suit, jacket, etc.) made to the customer's specifications
- (Clothing & Fashion) making or selling such suits, jackets, etc. a bespoke tailor
I HATE this word with a passion.
Our cafeteria at work refers to the pasta bar as "Bespoke"
Dead set fuckwits.
- (esp of a suit, jacket, etc.) made to the customer's specifications
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At the end of the day it's a matter of personal preference but I think you can appreciate that for a bespoke custom build people are prepared to pay a bit more than a factory made OTP.
Bespoke custom build!!!!!
Fitting brakes costs £100!!!!!!
I'm almost thinking this might be a joke
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Who's hiding behind a made up name?
Not me.
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Racist...
Istist.
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There are some right arrogant dicks around here.
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what the hell? £100 for a brakes? a ***hundred ***squiddy?!
Regarding the cars comparison, naturally it's always nice to get a nice piece of history like an old MG (despite being more unreilable, drink more fuel, expensive insurance, expensive to run, etc.), unfortuantely, your 'vintage' bicycle are merely the equation of British Leyland's greatest piece of art otherwise known as the Morris Ital replacing the old component with cheap aftermarket one and powdercoating it in gorgeous baby blue;
As you were.
Don't be a cock Ed, what's it to you?
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Nasty stammerrrrrrrrrrrrr that.
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I had a Morris Ital. As turds go it went quite well.
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Hello everyone following this thread.
This is Dani from F0ffa bikes and I just wanted to answer some of the comments that have been said.
Firstly let me say that I am flattered that my passion for bikes has generated so much discussion on this forum, even if some negative things have been said. It means that I can find out what I need to do to improve even more to make the next customers happy. Ideally I would appreciate people coming to me directly rather than slagging it out behind made up names on a forum. But what can you do other than offering direct access to me at my new shop when you get a chance to swing on by.
So to address some of the issues being raised:
Yes, I am the guy behind singlespeed.angelfire.com and yes, we had a few teething problems with our first bikes, have listened to people's feedback & have built hundreds of bikes since. The testimonials are real as we do not need to make things up.
As far as Lenni's (ehren_fried_chicken) bike is concerned, my friend has personally PM'd him to get him to come down and get myself to look at the bike but he hasn't. Also Lenni complained about the paint job, which is the reason why we started powder-coating all frames. So thanks for the suggestion Lenni.
Edscoble, you are right, you can get hold of a Fuji for 400 but then you ll need to add another 100 to put some brakes on. As an example with cars you can get yourself a brand new Ford Fiesta or for the same money a nice piece of history like a vintage MG. At the end of the day it's a matter of personal preference but I think you can appreciate that for a bespoke custom build people are prepared to pay a bit more than a factory made OTP. And for your information I am actually going to have our own design of OTP bike (the Foffa Prima) for those that are after something new anyway.
the Cytech certificate, as many of you know, is required by the BS regulations and needed for insurance purposes, etc.. Surely having this qualification is a positive thing and should give the buyer peace of mind so I don't know why people are joking about it.
as far as our prices are concerned I really wish I could get old racers for 20 pounds. If you can get me these frame for around 20 - 30 pounds then I ll be buying plenty from you. And if you know someone that can strip down, sand-blast and powder-coat a frame for 40 pounds then let's do business!
And new stuff at 50% off retail price, again I really wish it was so! And again I am not sure if people are taking into account when looking at my prices the 12 months warranty, taxes and overheads.
And of course giving you a 12 months warranty on vintage frames means I won't be able to supply the exact same frame if one fails, but I have always endeavored to go out of my way to satisfy the customer and there have been a couple of times when I have given a full refund even after months of use. I have not yet come across anyone offering that on second hand bikes.
And for those who wonder under the General Product Safety Directive, second hand bikes are excluded from BS standards (BS6102:1), however they should still comply in every way possible, bearing in mind the age and condition.
Also wanted to thank you Hamatt and some others that try and understand where we come from.
I understand some people will always have something to say about Foffa Bikes since I am aware some of you are also trying to make a living off it, either way I hope to see some of you at my workshop. And if you have anything else to say that might improve my service I am open to constructive criticisms.
Dani