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GA2G - ashe, i don't understand this "Either we celebrate loutishness, or civility is given more credence on this forum." let me impress upon you i am not a 'thicko' as you might put it. i really don't think your sentence makes sense.
i am not sure spite is accepted on here. i am not sure i have even seen spite in earnest. just sometimes immaturity and misunderstanding.
95% of the threads on this forum are full on good shit. let's not imitate the crap of modern media and focus on the bullshit.
i love the lack of moderation on this forum, and velocio's commitment to that. or a sense of community moderation. and by and large it works. and we are a long way away from needing to press the panic button.
or offer people outside as you seem to be suggesting. forgive me if i have misinterpreted your words.