Modern, race geometry, fg/ss frames?

The clever bit is for me, is the fact that swapping drop-outs doesnt just change it from vertical drop-out to track end. It changes the spacing from a modern road standard of 135mm to a track standard of 120mm. This will give you a far wider choice of hubs.

And a far wider chance of hitting your heels on the chainstays when you try to run a 42mm chainline.

I think those stays looked shaped to avoid that; which does restrict tyre clearance a bit, probably. One could always email Dom @ Kinesis. He's always happy to discuss geometry issues.

issues relating to geometry?

My 'bad'. Have edited accordian.

You're only really talking about 1.5mm though. Cant see it being a problem myself. You could get round it with a crankset that gives a higher Q-faktor.

Cranks - Bottom Bracket - 'Q'

Campagnolo Record Pista - Campagnolo Record Pista - 131 mm
Dura-Ace 7600 - Dura-Ace 7610 - 139 mm
Dura-Ace 7600 - Dura-Ace 7600 - 137 mm.
Sugino 75 Track - Sugino 75 Track - 139 mm.
Dura-Ace 7710 - Dura-Ace 7710 - 136 mm.
Miche Primato Pista - Miche Primato (107 mm.) - 135 mm.

From: http://www.businesscycles.com/tr-refspec.htm#cranks

There's fair geeks on this forum.

issues relating to geometry?

'geo' issues

There's fair geeks on this forum.

Sorry. Fixed.

You're only really talking about a sherrick though mate. Na worries. You could sort it with a crankset that gives ya more distance between your clod hoppers. Bonzer!

People in the know simply say 'geo'

The clever bit is for me, is the fact that swapping drop-outs doesnt just change it from vertical drop-out to track end. It changes the spacing from a modern road standard of 135mm to a track standard of 120mm. This will give you a far wider choice of hubs.

As I would run it fixed the braze on cable guides ruin it for me. I don't like to have bits that are not used (removed a few of my toes for that reason)
Plus I would rather just have an excuse to change my frame that have a one frame does it all!

Plus I would rather just have an excuse to change my frame that have a one frame does it all!

This seems to be the mistake the reviewers make. They seem to think removing the need for more bikes is a good thing, weirdos.

And a far wider chance of hitting your heels on the chainstays when you try to run a 42mm chainline.

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