Current Projects chat and miscellany

No the Holdsworth you pencil sharpener.

I use the word 'winter beater' lighty, I just put it together to deal with the winter, but not necessary a 'beater'.

oh right then....so a winter "ass kicker" eh?

my mate had a bike with exactly the same forks and the same tubing, it didn't have the gussets/webbing but was a unique design. it was made by pendle but i don't think he ever found out too much about them...but not sure how hard if at all he tried.

At the time the Columbus MAX tubeset was introduced, there were almost no compatible fittings available.
To be more precise: nothing at all.
Lugless building was something for rear niche makers.
And when lugs/BB-shells/crows were available, it was only one set.
It turned out that, with or without lugs, most MAX frames were looking pretty much the same. Many frame builders made a prototype or one year "production".
Yes, MAX tubes had advantages, but also disadvantages.
E.g.: you had to build lugless or were restricted to one set of lugs / supplier.
For builder and rider the frames were also not so practicle, because of the coke can effect. First, the frames were that stiff, that it was very hard to cold set the frames (necessary during the build to align the frame). Sometimes, folds appeared in the tubes during alignment and the frame could be thrown away.
For the rider: one accident and the frame could be ruined.
I think the success came a couple of years later, when most frame builders had forgotten the MAX set.
Technique of TIG welding became more common and the tubing was modified a bit (?). Wasn't there also a tubeset MAX-light (less oversized, increased wall thickness)?

New frame. No indication of whoever made it. No serial number or anything.
Has been resprayed at some point with name of a local bike shop.
Columbus stamped fork ends. Oval tubes.
Maybe a long shot but any ideas on tubeset, origins etc.?

oh dear, that frame is stunning!!!!

got this today to start a winter project, never been rode but has mega paint blistering to the front half. maybe something was spilt on it? do not really know what to do with it.

im liking the colour it is so maybe respray the same/similar?

OPEN TO IDEAS!

im sorry, someone jizzed on the frame and sold it to you as new?

get some track ends in there aaron, take those brazons off and sticker her up. job dun

BA sold me it and it is new dropouts are untouched and so is the seattube dont even think the seat tube bolt has ever been put in. i was thinking track ends but thats 60£ down the pooper.

i cant make my mind up

pointless putting track-end on it when the current dropout is perfectly fine.

build it up as cheaply as possible (lots of information on this site, just look for the 'list'), and then ride the hell out of it.

i did that with my current bike sooo cheap i want to make this one nicer.

im sure i will make my mind up soon

more idea would be sweet tho

get a track frame instead then? or a nicer road jobby if you want something nicer!
the peugot is by no means a bad frame however!

You can always removed the braze on, strip the frame and leave it bare (with the option of clearcoating it), can look pretty good like this;

As for building it nicer, it can be done easily on the cheap with the right part, like those System EX/SJS/Formula hubs that are cheap and very reliable.

thanks guys getting a clear picture of what i want!

New frame is here!

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Parts wise, what do you guys reckon?

Either:

Vintage Campagnolo Pista

OR

Modern Campag...

I know most will say vintage, but I reckon it could be interesting to go with a modern build...

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Arantrek, nice frame, out of the two I would put modern Campag on there myself.

You'll build it modern and wish you would have taken the time to find the old parts!
Vintage = much more rewarding. Unless its gonna be an everydayer!?

Maxcrowe - cheers, I would definitely recommend the guys at Tour de Ville.

Flowmont - that may be true, but every 'vintage' bike has 'vintage' parts on it. Thought it might be nice to do it a bit differentand maybe also improve the quality of the ride.

I just think the modern Pista cranks will look really nice on it.

Up to you if you want all the other bits to match.

Modern with old campag chainring will sort it out nicely.

+1 Yep, what you did Ed... and what I wanted to do

At the time the Columbus MAX tubeset was introduced, there were almost no compatible fittings available.
To be more precise: nothing at all.
Lugless building was something for rear niche makers.
And when lugs/BB-shells/crows were available, it was only one set.
It turned out that, with or without lugs, most MAX frames were looking pretty much the same. Many frame builders made a prototype or one year "production".
Yes, MAX tubes had advantages, but also disadvantages.
E.g.: you had to build lugless or were restricted to one set of lugs / supplier.
For builder and rider the frames were also not so practicle, because of the coke can effect. First, the frames were that stiff, that it was very hard to cold set the frames (necessary during the build to align the frame). Sometimes, folds appeared in the tubes during alignment and the frame could be thrown away.
For the rider: one accident and the frame could be ruined.
I think the success came a couple of years later, when most frame builders had forgotten the MAX set.
Technique of TIG welding became more common and the tubing was modified a bit (?). Wasn't there also a tubeset MAX-light (less oversized, increased wall thickness)?

i was always curious about the MAX tubeset.... now i know. thanks.

Dutch Cheese is another one who's comments I always look forward to reading... always so informative.

I would like to see a Dutch Cheese Vs Mitre Tester tech off

lol, me too.

Me too

Getting a little further with the Plume Sport - this is the frame now that i've had the time to undercoat it.
As i said before the LFGSS data loss, i'm planning to build up a Sturmey Archer front hub brake for it.

Mitre tester's an encyclopedia, the kinda guy you want next to you in University Challenge or Trivial Pursuit or in a bike shop