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He doesn't give a devil's.
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oh, I just worked that out before reading your reply. She must have been hell? jesus!
She is a lovely person and the mother of both my children, she may be a PITA sometimes but I wish her no harm and honestly I was only joking.
BOT
Kill the bike jacking fuckers not once but twice.......
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ah yes defo, count me in!!!!!!!!!!!
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This happened literally right in front of where my ex used to live, never had a problem in that neighborhood, but I had attempted muggings in Whitechapel and Brixton, both of which failed beacuse I ran. And a successful mugging in the states beacuse the kid had a gun.
London needs a Rudie Giuliani
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This happened literally right in front of where my ex used to live, never had a problem in that neighborhood, but I had attempted muggings in Whitechapel and Brixton, both of which failed beacuse I ran.
Well, maybe that'll teach you never to attempt a mugging around here again.
This is London, my friend. ;)
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I had attempted muggings in Whitechapel and Brixton, both of which failed beacuse I ran. And a successful mugging in the states beacuse the kid had a gun.
London needs a Rudie Giuliani
Not sure how having some Dutch geezer is gonna help man, he was a bit shit at Chelsea..
but Whitechapel's bad shit, it's where that Yorkshire ripper lived and everything innit
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I bet it was really maxcrowe.
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im 15 and ive kinda been in the middle of these kind of people.......
joelovesfixed, I value what you have to say. The only anger against your own experiences, is that felt by those who feel the most emasculated by gang culture, and state of society which says that when arrested, these bike thieves should then be given expensive holidays, and should never be touched, even if in the processed of attacking someone for their bike.
slaytanic has had more than his share of misfortune regarding bikes, so his ire is to be expected.
But I'm all for 15 year olds joining in our cycling passion, and adding to our knowledge base.
Anyone that says that at 15 one cannot have a lot of life experience, must have grown up in such a priviledged fashion, they could hardly see life for the Playstation in front of them. I have learnt alot from the kids in this country, even from 8 year olds. In fact, WHAT some of them know, is shocking......regarding school life here.
In fact, I think some of us adults, would rather not believe what is going on. My daughter told me some things about kids in her class, 4 years ago, when she was 13, that I still find not very easy to accept. But as a sage has repeatedly said.......**This Is London My Friend. **
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In my job I deal with burglars and gangs of shit bags all the time, it's a shame that the one caught had time to shout. More often it's a case of talking my way out of things but a good few cracks on the nose never goes a miss, dragging them into a quiet place where they then find themselves on their own has amasing effects on how fucking weak they become without their mates. Like pack dogs.
Still You did the right thing under the circumstances. Makes you want to get all vigellanti on their arses though, and really makes the blood boil.
It's a pity we are losing any sense of shame and people think they can do anything with no guilt or social contience!! -
In my job I deal with burglars and gangs of shit bags all the time..... a good few cracks on the nose never goes a miss, dragging them into a quiet place where they then find themselves on their own
You are a copper of yesteryear and I claim my 10 shillings
By God, we need more of that (without the racism and sexism and fit-ups)
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I think joelovesfixed and jonty ponty are the ones most talking sense here. The ones who are dangerous are probably a tiny minority. This whole 'society is falling apart' tone has been heard forever. In many ways I think we actually live in a much safer society. Think of the 70s and 80s: football holiganism, sectarianism etc. There are pubs I walk past now that 10-15 years ago would have regularly had fights outside which are now totally civilised. The hyperbole and adrenaline on this thread is understandable, but I do not think we are facing an epidemic of 'feral scum'.
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Glad to see this thread is calming down a bit
I was worried we were heading for a bit of class war here ;
i.e middle class and middle aged fixed wheel hipsters V the chav bike jacking hoodies of Hackney.Mind you. like G2G I think I ve been sized up as a possible opportunity by some of the above.
East London's not that bad , that said as some one whose lived in it since 1979 it is now a more polarised place . You used to get medical students and nurses living on some of the estates you ve identified . I doubt they live there now.
Oh & BTW , crime has been decreasing ..........
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i dunno if this thread is genuinely "calming down" Peter. i mean, people are advocating actually killing muggers. killing muggers. that's fucking sick.
on the consequences issue, it's a good point. people do indeed need to know the consequences of their actions. but i don't think it should necessarily be based on some wanker of a 1970s cop dragging people down back alleys to give them a kicking. justice (i.e. the 'consequences' bit) should always be restorative in nature, and preferably handed out by the communities affected. i know that sounds like pie in the sky, but the cops "getting tough" on kids, many of whom could be turned around, will only ever alienate them more, and perpetuate the cycle of violence, alienation, fear and repression. that's hard empirical fact, friends.
someone mentioned the old "class war" phrase and sadly, it is a class war. bikejacking is just one small symptom of a much bigger class war taking place everywhere. whether or not you go into the whole economic class war, there's no denying the massive cultural and social differences between kids at risk of joining gangs and the type of people (including myself, even though i was brought up in a council house) who post on here and are interested in nice bikes. most of us almost certainly had decent parents who knew how to bring up kids properly, teachers who (at least vaguely :D ) believed in us, friends/siblings who weren't in gangs, and half-decent employment prospects. we've got to remember that yes there is a small minority of scumbags who are genuinely just unhinged and uncontrollable, but a lot of kids just drift into that way of life because they see no other direction. and once you're in, it's very very difficult to get out because of massive peer pressure and a lack of money and mobility to settle elsewhere in the country to get away from it all. that's why i think organisations like the Princes Trust, Crisis, UK Youth, SE1 United, etc - who take young people out of their ordinary surroundings, train them up with life and work skills and actually believe in their potential - are absolutely fundamental to changing the way these kids perceive themselves and how they interact with other humans. killing them because they nicked your precious bike, is not.
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