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• #177
I've said all this before but....
The vast majority of people we see in our diabetes clinic are obese not because of medication, leptin gene mutation, hormonal imbalance etc (despite these being regular claims for the cause of their weight). They are obese due to over eating. If you are a western european and obese then the cause is virtually always due to poor diet and a sedentary life style. There are the exceptions with rare mutations or brain injuries but they are grossly outnumber by over eaters/exercise deniers.And whilst it will never happen legislation such as this would legitimise the lack of responsibility and denial that many of these people display to avoid doing what would significantly improve their health and well being.
A shift in the way our population eats, what it eats and more acceptance of self-responsibility are the only way to avoid suffering for a significant proportion of the population.
I have spent the last 2 years working on the molecular biology of diabetes in relation to the in vivo environment and due to the futility of working with people unwilling to help themselves i am considering moving into a different field when my contract expires.
+1
I used to be a fat c**t, and I always kidded myself I was a bit "cuddly", but trust me 18 stone on my 5' 10" frame is fat as fat gets. I got that way by being forced into early retirement through injury and sitting on my ever expanding arse eating and drinking my sorrows away: I was depressed, and food and drink relieved that depression.
Now I KNEW I was fat, I just refused to admit it. I still cycled a lot, I just ate for England.
Then one day I had a bit of a road rage incident during which the car driver called me a "lard arsed, fat fucker" and a "fat c*nt". I was mortally wounded because I knew it was true. But it spured me into a change in lifestyle.
Now 3 years later I am 14 stone and feel a whole lot better in a million ways.
So my take on all this is simple: Call a fatty a fatty, it's only telling them the truth and it might just save their life. -
• #178
can i call you a wanker then?
some people kill themselves after being taunted to the limit
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• #179
Only if I can call you a wanker back.
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• #180
+1
I used to be a fat c**t, and I always kidded myself I was a bit "cuddly", but trust me 18 stone on my 5' 10" frame is fat as fat gets. I got that way by being forced into early retirement through injury and sitting on my ever expanding arse eating and drinking my sorrows away: I was depressed, and food and drink relieved that depression.
Now I KNEW I was fat, I just refused to admit it. I still cycled a lot, I just ate for England.
Then one day I had a bit of a road rage incident during which the car driver called me a "lard arsed, fat fucker" and a "fat c*nt". I was mortally wounded because I knew it was true. But it spured me into a change in lifestyle.
Now 3 years later I am 14 stone and feel a whole lot better in a million ways.
So my take on all this is simple: Call a fatty a fatty, it's only telling them the truth and it might just save their life.
I'm glad you had a positive outcome from some ignorant person directing vile abuse at you / your body.Ricky Gervais on obesity
"It's not a disease"
"I'm so fucking ill nomnomnom"
"everything tastes good" "not salads?"How fat do I have to be to be allowed to laugh at that?
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• #181
smashing up your brain (or doing anything to your brain chemistry, such as chemotherapy, for that matter) can do all sorts to you, such as increased weight gain (which in turn can be due things as varied as altered metabolism or altered impulse control) to apparently inducing paedophillia!
Your body is governed by a balance of chemical cascades alter that balance and their maybe a physical result such as increased fat deposition. But now we are wandering into the hazy world of free will and conciousness (which is a potentially useless by product) and things might get outta hand. -
• #182
everybody dies
Yeah, but why rush it?
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• #183
smashing up your brain (or doing anything to your brain chemistry, such as chemotherapy, for that matter) can do all sorts to you, such as increased weight gain (which in turn can be due things as varied as altered metabolism or altered impulse control) to apparently inducing paedophillia!
Your body is governed by a balance of chemical cascades alter that balance and their maybe a physical result such as increased fat deposition. But now we are wandering into the hazy world of free will and conciousness (which is a potentially useless by product) and things might get outta hand.So it's only a matter of time before paedophiles can now just put it down to a chemical imbalance and get away with it?
How long is it gonna be before we're not allowed to call them paedophiles because we might hurt their feelings?
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• #184
Yeah, but why rush it?
sorry - deleted that by mistake.
why give people shit about, either?
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• #185
Sounds like censorship to me. Maybe it should be ok to comment, but only if they can't catch you.
like casual racism?
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• #186
sorry - deleted that by mistake.
why give people shit about, either?
Could be doing them a favour.
The guy who shouted abuse at me certainly did me a favour.
He made me confront the truth. -
• #187
some people kill themselves after being taunted to the limit
or they go postal and shoot loads of people up... inevitably it gets blamed on Marilyn Manson or Grand Theft Auto
At least those guys showed some spine (not for one minute am I condoning their behaviour, it's an analogy)
Chopper Reid would have a field day with this lol
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• #188
Could be doing them a favour.
The guy who shouted abuse at me certainly did me a favour.
He made me confront the truth.could be - one has the glorious position of not knowing whether or not one's 'fatty' comments have killed or cured.
i personally don't think anyone has the right to be the superhero that goes around curing the fatties by calling them names.
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• #189
I'm not actually advocating "superheroism" or evangelical beating of the anti fat drum. I just don't think we should collectivly sweep the whole thing under the rug for fear of upsetting people who are slowly killing themselves through a lifestyle choice.
Take any number of illegal substances and there are a mass of folk who will shout and scream about how bad it is for you/them/society/you kids etc etc. Put on a mass of lard and everyone suddenly has to be a model of empathy/sympathy/understanding.
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• #190
could be - one has the glorious position of not knowing whether or not one's 'fatty' comments have killed or cured.
Schroedinger's Fat?
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• #191
Schroedinger's Fat?
Ace.
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• #192
So it's only a matter of time before paedophiles can now just put it down to a chemical imbalance and get away with it?
Now paedophiles do seem to get something of a bad press.
You can say what you like about them, but they ALWAYS slow down when driving past schools.
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• #193
Got a spare fag bro?
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• #194
I'm not actually advocating "superheroism" or evangelical beating of the anti fat drum. I just don't think we should collectivly sweep the whole thing under the rug for fear of upsetting people who are slowly killing themselves through a lifestyle choice.
Take any number of illegal substances and there are a mass of folk who will shout and scream about how bad it is for you/them/society/you kids etc etc. Put on a mass of lard and everyone suddenly has to be a model of empathy/sympathy/understanding.
Tell it how it is.So my take on all this is simple: Call a fatty a fatty, it's only telling them the truth and it might just save their life.
come on man.
being fat is one of the only 'lifestyle choices' that is immediately noticable (as mentioned).
basically, you are saying it is okay to give someone shit, based on their appearance, and i say that is wrong.anyway - i am going for a pint, a smoke and a pizza, to soothe my fat ginger arse. :)
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• #195
There have been two cases in the states reccently where chemotherapy has been used in defence of paepdophillia, i think they were successful too.
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• #196
There was also a story in the Metro today about how chidren have been taken into care from someone who is obese. Not sure on the whole story behind it all though.
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• #197
There have been two cases in the states reccently where chemotherapy has been used in defence of paepdophillia, i think they were successful too.
really?
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• #198
Only if I can call you a wanker back.
More people are killing themselves through being obese then through being taunted.bingo! picture of nail being hit by hammer or some funny meme involving a cat.
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• #199
i'm trying to find the references to post but thinking about it one might have been chemo and the other brain trauma.
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• #200
Schroedinger's Fat?
Repped!
I just ate four shortbread biscuits and a boubon