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@pullingteth
no prizes except for correctly guessing i was in a bit of a tired and emotional state when i typed in the user name.had been to cycle show then on to bricklane bikes, watching all the hip and trendy ,very well groomed, considered look cyclists and being miffed i am too old to carry it off......still fancy a fixe though.I did a duathalon with an off road cycle 20k and wondered if a 29er fixie for off road would fit the bill.need to do more root canal need two bikes