• Hey Tea Bee, I've been following this thread for a little while and while your comments are valid, UTFS is too often thrown out there by new and old alike, as is HTFU, the forum has them now as signifiers of its personality, like it or hate it, and railing against it probably won't change it.
    Because new members wanna belong and take on the meme automatically, without actually wondering what they are doing, and so it carries on, from generation to generation.

    And as much as I advise people to search for the information they need here, that doesn't preclude anyone from searching any of the other cycling forums out there, which might have a more straightforward answer to a question than the rambling, accusatory, swearing laden image filled threads we seem to specialize in.
    And in answer to your question I have read many threads on this forum, you take out what you need and if the answer isn't there you ask the question and if you don't get the information out of it, you use other means.

    The forum is a free for all, we monitor ourselves, this thread is that initiative in action, but its not perfect, as attested by your dissatisfaction with the response you got to whichever question you asked. But personally I find the constant reiteration of the message that the forum is unfriendly, is just so much hokum, the forum's no more unfriendly than it used to be if you come in looking for quick answers, or cheap bits without giving anything back. Interact, invest and its friendlier than you can imagine. You've been to South Easts and Souths so you know this for yourself.

    On a side note this is probably the only internet forum which I have invested anytime in, and maybe I'm deluding myself but I believe its pretty special. So I do get peeved when members new and old piss on it from a great height, when has been pointed out many times, that the special bit of the forum isn't the part where we sit here and type stuff onto a server somewhere, the special bit is all the things we do together outside on our bikes, polo, rides, drinks.

    So as I said earlier as much as I like the thought of the forum being the sum total of thought and existence on bike related matters there are other places to get more straightforward answers to some of the questions people might want to ask, and if that is the case, there is nothing wrong with finding information elsewhere so as not to be frustrated by the rambling incoherent one upmanship that threads can descend into.

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