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I have only trained at one club so my experience of the techniques and testing is fairly limited but our krav pressure tests consist of continual attacks from at least three attackers which will only be from a selection of attacks applicable to the level of the person being attacked over a period of time specified by the defenders level. So currently I am doing tests over 6 minutes defending against standard stuff like straight and hook punches punches, chokes from any position, bear hugs from any position, attacks on the ground (defender on back or front, side control, various mounts etc) knife defence (held to throat from all positions, slashing and stabbing attacks) gun defence (currently only to chest, working on threats to head etc). All of these are suprise attacks and can be accompanied by an attack to ride out to start with such as a throw or take down.
All attacks are carried out with 95% aggression, you have to get yourself out of the attack the attacker won't let you off lightly. Currently everything is done in a fully lit room with lots of space but there is talk afoot of tests in low light environments and confined spaces.
I find 6 minutes utterly exhausting, but will be moving up to 8 soon and eventually 10 - 15. the horror!
we also have started trying to get a little krav involved in kickboxing sparring i.e rather than backing out at the end of a combo start grappling and throwing in some knees and using the take downs/disengagements from the pressure tests to stop your sparring partner before restarting. I find this much more fun than regular sparring but it tends to get really chaotic quickly.
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krav pressure tests consist of continual attacks from at least three attackers which will only be from a selection of attacks applicable to the level of the person being attacked over a period of time specified by the defenders level. [...]
All attacks are carried out with 95% aggression, you have to get yourself out of the attack the attacker won't let you off lightly. [...]
we also have started trying to get a little krav involved in kickboxing sparring i.e rather than backing out at the end of a combo start grappling and throwing in some knees and using the take downs/disengagements from the pressure tests to stop your sparring partner before restarting. I find this much more fun than regular sparring but it tends to get really chaotic quickly.
Thanks for the description: sounds interesting. It would be intriguing to hear how those kickboxing sessions go, or if you ever head down to a MMA class to see the differences sparring there (or indeed BJJ or muay thai, but those of course have the limitations that one is purely grappling while the other is purely striking).
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My cousin is a former World Champion in southern styles of Kung Fu (Hung Gar) and was once attacked by a group of rouge football supporters/hooded estate scum. Yes, he was with his mates from the national team. Guess the output :-) Few of his mates had broken limbs, as the attackers used baseball batts, but they still managed to teach the chavs a lesson.
He looks bit silly here (everyday he's a square suited layer), but he's lethal, trust me - especially with a sword :-)
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For those who missed it...
Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio Rua ~ UFC 104
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Lyoto_Machida_vs_Mauricio_Rua_UFC_104_HD?vid=10007528&tid=100
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Andreze the Pitbull's glass jaw is a big disapointment as his fight skills are great.
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Anyone excited about Mariusz Pudzianowski's entrance into MMA ?
It seems theres been gossip of it since 2005, and he is now due to make a debut this december!
He has was a competitive boxer as a youth and now has a green belt in kyokushin karate too.
Fight is happening at KSW XII - Poland
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I'm personally gutted that Marius is making the crossover. He is the definition of Strong Man and whilst I am open to individuals expressing what they want to do, I can't help but feel that his inclusion is similar in vein to that of Brock Lesnar, Bobby Lashley, and half of the NFL that are in the TUF house at the minute; the 'casual fan' will see MMA as something that anyone with size and power can dominate in. And that sucks.
I guess it's natural selection, but I miss the days of true martial artists like Frank Mir and Ken Shamrock, now it just seems to be wrestlers, roid heads, f-k even DMX is stepping into the cage...
I miss Marius picking up Atlas stones. Take off the 4oz and pick up the chalk bag again. :(
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PAH that chunk of polishness is debuting in mma? thats roflworthy. i mean serously thats hilarious.
Racist!
An seriously, do you realise how strong and athletic people like mariusz actually are? Strongman events involve loads of running & tossing really heavy stuff. Mariusz could actually hold 2-3 heavyweight fighters in his arms and run around. He has world records in most of the strongman events.
If you look at the intensive training of the big fighters like lesnar, a lot of it is actually wimpier versions of things done in strongman.
This isnt a video of mariusz but one of his mates arild haugen. Just at how the size of these people does not necessary slow them down in the slightest. Have you ever tried to lift an atlas stone? Do you realise how awkward any heavy they are?
YouTube- Arild Haugen WR stones
Many of the more athletic strongmen would easily have a chance against skilled fighters with no fighting skills, pureley for the fact they could grab and toss people.
Mariusz apparently got some skillz though, so it will be interesting to see how this turns out.
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nah, this really ought to be a product enquiry thread.
some dude told me that those floor standing yellow punch bags at Gymbox costs about £100. retail price supposedly. I've been all over the web without finding anything close to that, in fact there isn't much floor standing stuff around at all. what do you reckon people? live in a rented flat so ceiling hanging bag thing isn't really on.
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Hai! Just saw this thread pop up.
I'm a blue belt under Nic Gregoriades (who was Roger Gracie's first black belt). I do gi and no-gi mainly at Budokwai in Chelsea although I head up to Roger's place whenever I can.
I used to do Muay Thai and MMA at Carlson's in Hammersmith but have decided to focus on the grappling as that's what I find most enjoyable.
I missed most of the tournaments this year due to injury but am keen to compete some more.
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Blankface, respect for going in the ring, and glad that you enjoyed it.
How did it go exactly? Have you got any footage?Sorry for the delayed response. It was fun, the most tiring single event of my whole life. Emotionally and Physically draining. I treated it as too much of a grappling match though so will be substantially improving my stand-up game before my next fight in september. Cant wait to get back in there! I dont have any footage im afraid, the dude I fought does but I need to get it off him at some point.
Hai! Just saw this thread pop up.
I'm a blue belt under Nic Gregoriades (who was Roger Gracie's first black belt). I do gi and no-gi mainly at Budokwai in Chelsea although I head up to Roger's place whenever I can.
I used to do Muay Thai and MMA at Carlson's in Hammersmith but have decided to focus on the grappling as that's what I find most enjoyable.
I missed most of the tournaments this year due to injury but am keen to compete some more.
sounds good mate, Im a mere whitebelt but have been doing no gi for around a year, I'm gonna be defending my under 78kg title at a grapple comp at the end of july! shits gonna go downnn! I agree about grappling being one of the funnest parts. deffo my favorite.
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Heh - I'm 64kg, so I can sympathise. ;)
I think I've already said my piece about the whole 'sport' label, but I'd be interested in hearing more about exactly what you do in Krav Maga to pressure test techniques. Krav Maga frequently pops up on these kind of threads, largely because people will point to "its from the Israeli military, so it MUST be effective."
When it comes to unarmed combat, "taught to the military" unfortunately does not automatically equal effective. Perhaps because they already have the infinitely more effective medium of guns, there has been an incredible amount of silly stuff taught in the military over the years, though things are looking up with the US adoption of modern combatives.
Is there any compliance in this Krav Maga pressure testing, or is the person on whom you're trying to apply the technique doing their very best to prevent you achieving it? That has to be present for an effective martial art, which is why regular, heavy contact sparring is an essential part of an effective martial art (though as discussed earlier, not everybody wants to learn how to fight, and there is nothing wrong with that, so long as the style doesn't pretend to offer more than it can deliver).