Where do you keep your bike?

i cant remeber which thread this was originally from, maybe it was dealing with bike storage vs the other half, but i laughed my ass off

This one http://www.londonfgss.com/thread27393.html

Move to a country with lower housing prices. Then buy a house with a ~25 square meter workroom attached to the side. Worked for me :)

Most of the bikes in that photo have gone now..

They've been replaced by new ones. :)

I keep the Gitane in the hallway, other two are in the shed.

Move to a country with lower housing prices. Then buy a house with a ~25 square meter workroom attached to the side. Worked for me :)

Where did you move? Sometimes I think about the money I waste living here and it makes me sad.

£8.20 a day on trains alone = £2,066 per year :(

The Train? But you have a bike!

Inflatable bikes?

It's 25 miles each way and there's no shower in the office. I was riding in and using a gym around the corner but it's dark all the way in and all the way home now. And the roads are all 1.5 lane 70mph jobbies. Not risking it.

Fair point. :)

I keep mine in Sir Fred Goodwin's garage - no-one's getting anything out of there!

Mine will be in the flat. My girlfriend and I had "the storage discusson" and she's genuinely interested in seeing the progress of it as it gets built. She asks me why I choose certain parts and not others (mainly for financial reasons!) and appears not to be too worried about it. She even said that I shouldn't keep it outside because of all the crackheads wanting to scouse it or bits off it.

I've never mentioned the 148 pairs of shoes that she managed to squeeze into our tiny flat, so I think she allows me the time, space and investment with no fuss.

We've already worked out where it'll rest when we have guests and where it'll be for more general day-to-day storage. She even bought a long hallway runner for it to sit on when I come in and it's been raining!

I know that the problems will come when I want more bikes - but until then, it's all good in the hood.

Most of the road & rail transport problems in the South East are associated with people thinking that the urban work centre & suburban domestic areas model means they have an inalienable right to travel miles and miles each day, independently, cheaply and without congestion. It's unsustainable. Furthermore, a lot of the problems associated with the flight of the affluent from our cities is a negative by-product of this system. Why is that we assume that its OK to commute 50 miles twice a day, thus making the urban places we converge upon hell, expecting to be able to speed through and drive like pricks though the city neighbourhoods to and from the idyllic villages, which are almost entirely populated by people who don't spend all day there? Its just not OK.

Sparky I don't aim this ire at you, particularly, just the general idea of transport provision to allow our cities to be blighted by roads. I have no idea of your situation.

Live near where you work. It'd make life better for everybody. Its not rocket surgery. Our income taxes ought to be weighted toward those that commute far.

And make the Congestion zone £50 a day with no discounts, and the entire M25 area. That'd maybe start to make a difference to London traffic as a whole.

well said^^ if more people took this approach they might actually become better connected to others around them, which leads to overall social cohesion and so on.

Well said but 50 quid a day is a little steep.

Remember the outcry when Ken said he'd increase it to £25 for cars with a higher CO2 emissions level?! Porsche tried to sue him and that's something we really need to spend money on.

Most of the road & rail transport problems in the South East are associated with people thinking that the urban work centre & suburban domestic areas model means they have an inalienable right to travel miles and miles each day, independently, cheaply and without congestion. It's unsustainable. Furthermore, a lot of the problems associated with the flight of the affluent from our cities is a negative by-product of this system. Why is that we assume that its OK to commute 50 miles twice a day, thus making the urban places we converge upon hell, expecting to be able to speed through and drive like pricks though the city neighbourhoods to and from the idyllic villages, which are almost entirely populated by people who don't spend all day there? Its just not OK.

Sparky I don't aim this ire at you, particularly, just the general idea of transport provision to allow our cities to be blighted by roads. I have no idea of your situation.

Live near where you work. It'd make life better for everybody. Its not rocket surgery. Our income taxes ought to be weighted toward those that commute far.

And make the Congestion zone £50 a day with no discounts, and the entire M25 area. That'd maybe start to make a difference to London traffic as a whole.

Blimey. I don't want to live near where I work, and if you understood my situation then you'd see why. I don't think that a 50-mile round-trip is excessive, especially on the train.

Would I rather not do it? Of course. Thing is, if the rail networks had not been privatised, and had the investment and long-term management that they needed in order to become a successful public utility - because that's what they should be - then the journey would be cheaper and faster.

My train in the morning is mostly empty, and there are hundreds of people who drive - alone - from the city I'm living in to the town I'm working in. Who is more deserving of criticism?

well said^^ if more people took this approach they might actually become better connected to others around them, which leads to overall social cohesion and so on.

This is just not that simple. In more rural areas you can't always live near where you work - jobs and houses are spread over a wide area. Besides, if I move near to where I work, what about the people I live with? Or should they all get jobs near me? Or should I choose only to live with people who happen to work near me? Should I choose a partner in the same way, to lighten the load on the transport infrastructure?

I've just read this back and it seems even weirder. I'm paying taxes to subsidise a rag-tag group of rail companies out to rip off the commuters, as well as paying the extortionate ticket prices they charge. I also ride a bike to and from the station at either end - yet you're mentioning the proliferation of roads.

I barely use them!

On another note, if you read my posts, I'm an anti-commuter in a sense; I live in an urban area and work in a rural area.

£2000 a year, eh?

you could insure and run a small motorbike for that

And fall off it in the winter when it's icy...

keep it in the close stairwell, nobody is stupid enough to carry a bike away down 4 flights of stairs... (yours truly excepted). we have a lift, but its stupidly cuntish to take that and take up all the space with the bike. it is however making me want to get a lighter bike.

actually, who am i kidding, i just want another one to clog up the stairwell with.

Like it sasmon, where d'you get that?

Its a cycloc:

http://www.cycloc.com/

Picked it up at Velorution in Laanduns West End. But you can et them on the web easily enough.

Overpriced, but was the only thing the Mrs would allow!

On it now, cheers.

I've managed to fit a fair amount into not too much space.
Hallway: tandem - vertical in conveniently tandem shaped alcove + fixed for day to day use. Takes up no real space and does not obstruct stairs.
Lounge: Tourer and lizzies road bike behind sofa top and tailed taking up around 1.5 bikes worth of space. Small ikea desk covered in parts/tools/junk. Spare wheels on top of wardrobe.
Under the bed: 2 frames

Theres a whole lotta stuff but its pretty unobtrusive really. Could do with a sheet to cover the ones in the lounge for good measure.
Flatmates have been away for 2 weeks so yet to encounter the tandem...
Definately don't have space to build the 2 frames i have, currently flat hunting in earnest for the new year: epic indoor bike storage/work space on top of the list. My girlfriend rocks.