So let's talk locks and security

I'd think you'd struggle to get the same level of involvement on this forum - lots of people with lots of stolen bikes in the past. Generally speaking, I don't think that there would be any room for discussion between us and bike thieves that wouldn't involve repeated D-locks (of various quality) to the face.

Additionally, bicycle thieves are of a different class than professional motorcycle thieves - average value of rice rocket £10-15k, HHSB £1k. They will be less sophisticated and more opportunistic, but that may be changing.

I can see where your coming from with the thieves but how else to stop them? Beat them at their own game.

Unfortunatley as motorcycle alarms and imobilsers get better there attack differs and more cycles are coming in to the price bracket of second hand motorbikes bikes so the thieves can make more money on cycles as they can steal more. IMO

Well then, you have just stated an option. This forum is full of opinions. But there may not be a thread with all the answers on it. Do the research and contribute by starting one.

Hence asking if there was one.