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@Andy, I might just do that - I have a chainwhip/lockring tool. We had post at work today, so there is a chance it might turn up tomorrow
@Smyth dont think I can get down to moose when its open anyway as I'm away all of Sat - thanks for the suggestion tho, want to try an avoid buying one as I have one from hub jub on the way
@Ed - PM coming your way
thanks guys