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  • James,

    I just thought that it was odd that HF has been in development for over 8 months and the week that a picture drops on the intenet of them, everyone starts talking about a new form of foot retention. I've seen that thread on the LFG forums and it happened around the time that the first pictures came up on my Flickr. I immediately removed my pics and felt horrible. Jeremiah kept telling us to not put them online anywhere and we all kinda knew it was too late.

    I see your point / perspective, now do you see mine? I felt some kind of responsibility to stand up for Jeremiah and Rob...

    _j

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    Next one:

    Also, so you know, the pic of my bike up in the work stand is from April and we had the straps in January. The first few straps came online around February...

    Not being a dick, just "wondering" if those pics hadn't leaked, would there be more brands floating around?

    and the final one:

    On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:54 PM, <jamesdavis1985@aol.com> wrote:
    [INDENT]Hi John,

    Personally, the first thing I and anyone else I know saw of your straps were on that picture of your bike in the work stand, if there were any pictures leaked beforehand they were certainly unknown to me, sadly as you and Joel (JOL) can both see now, there are a lot of imitators out there who are happy to try and rip off the true innovators, to make a quick buck so to speak. Not sure exactly when "the pictures were leaked in February" but funnily enough you can read in this post here: http://www.londonfgss.com/thread16351-2.html Joel talking about his straps right at the beginning of February, at this point (if I remember correctly) they had already been in testing for around a month.
    For the record I have seen all the crappy imitations knocking around, including the piss poor attempts at duplicating hold fast straps that some kid put up on trick track, LOL is all I can say, that did make me laugh!
    ***Oh and of course Chicago Wigs attempt to copy Joels straps, never seen such a blatant rip off of someones design in my life, but no doubt people will see them for what they are..... ***
    You guys clearly have a good product in the Hold Fast straps, and although having not seen a pair in person myself, from what I can see the workmanship looks very good, and obviously they have undergone extensive testing,*** I hope you can appreciate that JOL's straps have had a similar amount of time/effort put into them in terms of R&D, and of are the first to bring to market "hardwareless", horizontal mounting foot retention. ***
    To answer your main question, I personally think regardless of whether those pics had leaked, fixed freestyle/tricks whatever you wanna call it, is in such a progressive stage right now, and what with Polo gaining in popularity world wide also, I think this type of harder wearing/tougher foot retention would have been an inevitable step at some point.
    Calling Chicago Wig imitators is fair enough, but it'd be nice if you showed a bit more respect to Joel considering they ripped off his idea, and he has dedicated as much time/effort to creating his product as your friend Jeremiah has, rather than holding him in the same contempt as Chicago Wig who quite obviously just ripped off someone elses product.

    Regards
    James

    Johns Response:

    Werd man. I'll un-link your straps. Sorry about all this.

    :-(

    _j

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    John Watson
    t. ******
    Brooklyn, NY

    [home] JohnProlly@gmail.com
    [blog] www.ProllyisnotProbably.com
    [flickr] www.Flickr.com/photos/johnprolly/

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