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  • one of the great things about athletics is that it allows people with talent and dedication but without much money succeed (unlike many other sports). if you allow drugs, then straight away it becomes about who can afford the best drugs (which are much more expensive than a pair of running spikes).

    I'm talking about top level athletics, where there is a lot of money involved.

    this is all complete and utter bollocks. i don't even know where to start with it, there's not a single true thing in this paragraph. i am friends with quite a few elite track and field athletes and none of them are on drugs (and yes, they would absolutely tell me if they were). they are naturally gifted and train like motherfuckers, most of them at great physical and financial cost to themselves. your casual ill-informed judgment is offensive, and just fucking wrong!

    sure there have been athletes busted for taking illegal substances, but honestly it's nowhere near as prevalent as people think.

    **I completely beg to differ, i'm not friends with any elite track and field athletes, but basing your opinion on a few of your close personal friends says nothing about that group of athletes as a whole, kudos to your friends for steering clear of all that...... **
    I'm not going to go into details on an internet forum, but I know for a fact that certain people made a lot of money selling stuff to track and field athletes, almost as much as powerlifters/bodybuilders etc

    good on you.

    Thank you

    i used to be a serious track runner, at state and national level, but i realised that i wasn't good enough to compete at the elite level. it was obvious that there are people better than me. faster, stronger, with better endurance. just better. and it's nothing to do with drugs.

    I used to be hardcore into my powerlifting, I only competed at amateur level (unassisted, none of those bench press shirts and all that crap!), but I got to meet a lot of pro's and top amateurs, as well as train along side some of them at a couple of the gyms I used to be members of....where various athletes used to come to train as well, no one that famous I guess but over a few years you get to chat to a lot of people in between sets etc......just to let you know where i'm coming from.
    **Of couse, natural ability has more to do with it than anything, its never JUST the drugs but poor genetics can often (but not always) be overcome with the appropriate training and a shit load of drugs (in terms of physical endurance strength etc), obviously drugs etc have no bearing on some ones skill level or technique...but thats a different subject. **
    However if someone has great genetics and does everything else right, then that can be the makings of a world class athlete.

    IMHO accusing people that are better than you of being on drugs looks like sour grapes.

    I was never accusing anyone better than me of being on drugs, there were people I beat in competition that were on drugs lol, its not the be all and end all of training, but what it can do is help you push past your genetic limits and reach levels of strength and endurance that simply aren't naturally possible.
    Please read my posts properly before you criticise and rubbish them as nonsense.

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