Photography: Camera sensor size difference

Messenjah, I cant be bothered to feed a troll so you carry on taking your photos and we will all carry on taking ours, you live with your equipment and we shall live with ours.

I'm a troll because I have a different personal preference to you? WTF?! .

thats the point of th 10x zoom.
you can zoom the screen right in on what you're shooting to focus on a precise point.
the screens on modern DSLR's are quite good these days anyway.

i, personally, don't really see the point of them outside the studio (maybe still life). but thats just my opinion, and i've prob just started a 10 page argument now.

i shoot a few exteriors/buildings. sometimes i work on my own outside in the street so can't tether to a laptop. live-view is a real time image that shows you exactly what the chip is seeing as the mirror is locked up (so less vibration when you take the shot)
i also use shift/tilt lenses, if i apply some tilt you can't always see the effect in the viewfinder.
zooming in x10 and being able to move around the image means i can focus critically and check in real time to see what changes to the angle of tilt have done.
it's no gimmick. i wouldn't buy another slr without it.

i dont doubt that at all..... it would be a bit stupid for any new DSLR's not to have it, now that the technology is widely available.
and i can see it's uses with a tilt/shift.
i just mean that i wouldn't use it all that much, as i'm no pro. just a keen amatuer.

actually... i used to shot nightclubs ona friday/saturday night for a freind of mine who was a promoter.
all on a 15mm diagonal fisheye, and live view would have been well handy, as there is no space to maneuver and check whats in the frame... and sometimes you just cant look through the viewfinder with the camera held up above your head or down low on the floor.
so i guess it does have it's uses.

don't you tend to use flash? I usually find it easier just to set the focus at 1 metres, F/8 and flash, good amount of compromise (especially taking advantage of the wastage space).

gahah nerd fight initiated

don't you tend to use flash? I usually find it easier just to set the focus at 1 metres, F/8 and flash, good amount of compromise (especially taking advantage of the wastage space).

Hi speed low light Nikon Auto-focus ftw.....

olympus have recently launched the ep1

they are lending me one to play with. had a quick go at the launch and it certainly has potential
big chip (for a compact) small size and manual control. you can get an adapter for the old zuiko lenses too. seems very well made and quite solid. the 17mm pancake lens is tiny.

I was looking at one, they look great, but the downside of using old Zuiko lens, is that even an old 35mm Zuiko lens is heavily cropped into a 70mm equation field of view.

netherless my father is definitely interested in that with the pancake lens, but then, the Sigma DP2 seemed like a better alternative.

yeah, the EP1 caught my attention. Also Leica is working on a small brother of the M with changeable lens
and apparently the M9 will have full 35mm sensor. I can't wait !

I hope the 'small brother' have a large sensor.

I keep meaning to buy a compact, but anytime I have enough spare cash for a decent one, I end up spending the money on work stuff thats going to help make me money, or make my job easier lol.
Or more lighting gear, you can never have too much lighting equipment :p

In the post as we speak. SUPER excited! :)
Lens not interchangeable but Full Manual and RAW ability. Love it already.

+1 James, I keep meaning to get a compact, but never get round to buying one for those reasons. And I want a new bike.

Had a lovely Ricoh but it got nicked...

The cheapest pro compact I can afford are those film one, they're excellent value for what it is despite not being digital.

I'm in a pickle between a Sigma DP2 or the Olympus.

I bought an old Olympus 35 SP rangefinder a couple of years ago as I'd managed to convince myself I needed a compact, and I never use the bloody thing. The trouble is I'd never forgive myself if I saw "the perfect shot" and all I had on me was an old school rangefinder or a compact digital. For random shots I just stick a 50mm f1.8 on my SLR body and it's bulky, but fits in my bag fine.

That said, the difference in weight between the D100 and D200 is massive. I may well have to dust off the Olympus...

I bought an old Olympus 35 SP rangefinder a couple of years ago as I'd managed to convince myself I needed a compact, and I never use the bloody thing. The trouble is I'd never forgive myself if I saw "the perfect shot" and all I had on me was an old school rangefinder or a compact digital. For random shots I just stick a 50mm f1.8 on my SLR body and it's bulky, but fits in my bag fine.

That said, the difference in weight between my D100 and D200 is massive. I may well have to dust off the Olympus...

Hey Mooks I heard you bought an old Olympus. Ever thought of posting about it?

Maybe one of these days I will - unfortunately at the moment I don't use it enough, and I'm worried about not having my DSLR to hand in case that perfect shot comes up, but the D200 is so heavy I might have to start using it.

^say that again.

I bought an old Olympus 35 SP rangefinder a couple of years ago as I'd managed to convince myself I needed a compact, and I never use the bloody thing. The trouble is I'd never forgive myself if I saw "the perfect shot" and all I had on me was an old school rangefinder or a compact digital. For random shots I just stick a 50mm f1.8 on my SLR body and it's bulky, but fits in my bag fine.

That said, the difference in weight between my D100 and D200 is massive. I may well have to dust off the Olympus...

Get an Olympus XA; superb 35 mm lens, rangefinder focusing, fits in your pocket. Never without mine. The XA3 is good as a point and shoot; better than the Lomo for sure. The Lomo is to cameras what fixed is to bikes: discuss.

Get an Olympus XA; superb 35 mm lens, rangefinder focusing, fits in your pocket. Never without mine. The XA3 is good as a point and shoot; better than the Lomo for sure. The Lomo is to cameras what fixed is to bikes: discuss.

You can probably get an DSLR into your pocket if you smash it up enough.

Mooks, I know what you mean about the weight difference, We have owned the same cameras. But it's worth it, the metal body on the d200 means it's way more durable.

Though I miss the days when I used to fit my d100 body in one jacket pocket and my 50mm in another pocket, bloody portable that.

A lomo is what a unipack is to bikes