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i agree completely! this place is definitely less friendly towards new posters than it used to be. i think it's a shame.

I think the forum would be better if a bit more patience was shown to people who are stuck with a problem they want help with.

at the moment the attitude seems to be a bit Captain Mainwairing...

++1 how difficult is to just be friendly and steer people that are a bit lost, in the right direction?...

It can be daunting for a newbie on a large forum such as this...

that's something this place could do with a bit more of, friendly helpful people..

what ever happened to good manners?

the forum is, what the forum is...

those who jump in and then jump out again looking for the quickest possible route to get an answer to a question (that may have been asked many times over), or those wanting to sell/buy a bike in the shortest time imaginable, generally get the short end of the stick.

Those that use the massive social aspect of the forum (rides, drinks, t-shirts, spotted) etc get more rope/time with which to take the piss, derail, tell people to utfs.

Its not so hard, to spend a bit of time and get a feel for what the forum is, more time spent looking and reading makes for less time getting het up over how aggressive/unhelpful/sarcastic posters are here.

Most posters are generally helpful, and will give you an answer before they derail, others wanting to get into the forum spirit, will just derail immediately because they see others doing it and assume its the norm, obviously not having read the umpteen posts, in the myriad threads where people give an informed answer and leave it at that.

The forum grows ever faster and those of us who spend time on it, need to if not police, at least set some sort of example. Each one teach one, people play the fool, and act the arse, because they're bored, letting loose their inner troll or just following the example of everyone else. If you want the forum to be friendlier/more helpful, then you'll have to set that example and not just send out a plea into the forum hinterlands, hoping others hear you and agree. More participation is required from those that feel strongly about it, engage with it and maybe it'll change, just adding a plus one to someones comments changes nothing...

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