• No response from the OPer about revising start time.

    I am considering leaving proper-early, like 6am, or seven latest. I might start a sub list if everyone is OK with that. So we have choices: 6am or 9am. Makes for two smaller groups which is probably a good thing?

    @AlienMo : You can buy a ticket beforehand, but you'd probably need to know which train you'll be on. So no, don't bother. I recall last year we got a two-for one price, some kind of weekend-seaside daytrip deal. So look out for that, everyone.

    There can be problems with taking lots of bikes on trains. So nobody ask lots of questions of train staff, drawing attention to us bending the rules.. some trian staff will be officious if you hassle them. Just slip on wherever you can with as little fuss as you can manage. Also, at this time it's unlikely to be busy with other passengers going to London.
    The last time people left in fairly small groups, some not hanging around much, some stopping for food, some then going to a pub too. So its wasn't a problem.

    i think Cornelius is still out of town so that's why no response. i might be up for leaving early. perhaps not 6am, but 7am. how long are you thinking of sticking around Southend?

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