Do you think bike frame size is less important these days?

Id imagine it would be small. I'm 5'7", but relatively short legs (<30"), and I tend to ride the smallest frames alot of manufacturers make.

Have you considered going for 650c wheels, instead of the standard 700c. I'd highly recommend it for someone of your height, as it will help place you over the wheels and not inbetween them (it will also aid standover). This should improve the feel and handling of the bike.

Yeah - thanks for the suggestion but I considered and rejected 650s. I've gone for 700s and a sloping top tube. Others may think it's anti-porn but I've seen the drawings & I'm happy.

Yep. That was me.

Of course if I had listened to my own advice and carried allen keys on the White Rose, I could've tightened my loose headset out on the road.. fuck it.. what's the worst that can happen at 84kph with a loose headset? :)

Did something similar last night. cranked away from some lights and my drive train went quite. Look down to see my rear wheel has moved slightly and is now 1mm from the non-driveside chainstay.
No worries I've got a nice campag peanut butter spanner......at home (piss). The bolts seemed tight enough to get home safely, but they half hamper my race against the guy on a flashy new Trek, who pulled past me on a hill.

I think it is also supposed to be more powerful in a physiological sense (lower q factor, that is).

Yeah that too,
but I think the initial idea was to bring his legs closer together, and make them more aero.

Yeah - thanks for the suggestion but I considered and rejected 650s. I've gone for 700s and a sloping top tube. Others may think it's anti-porn but I've seen the drawings & I'm happy.

The bike I'm trying to put togther at the mo takes slopping top tube to a new level ;)
Who says short people cant have big wheels

^
N.i.c.e.

i've always wondered this, but why do mountain bikes tend to have sloping top tubes, something to do with strength?

i've always wondered this, but why do mountain bikes tend to have sloping top tubes, something to do with strength?

mainly to do with being able to move your knee over across the top tube. you corner with weight shifts and moving your body around the bike a lot more than on a road bike, plus you can drop the saddle out the way when riding technical stuff at speed (especially on a hardtail)

Glad you found it helpful

You have no idea of the pain if felt and the money I wasted on stems before I followed his advice.

Peter White and Steve Hogg are also good sources .

@ billyboSS
I think the conclusion is your bikes are the wrong size so to help you alieviate this problem please sell me your oversized fuji track real cheap!

jus looking at new frames and jus wondering whats
56cm c-c, 58cm c-t <------------ CT and CC
54.5cm c-c

center to center and center to top.

ETT. effective top tube (measured center to center) is more important IMHO.

thanks dude . . . looks like i can buy this frame then . . .

does it make your bum look big?

Your pithy adopted internetz phraseology just doesn't wash with me.

for some reason I imagined Darth Vader saying this, and it made me laugh.

even better if you add "commander" at the end.

No worries I've got a nice campag peanut butter spanner......at home (piss).

I really rate the Surly Jethro Tule. It rarely leaves my bag since it's small enough not to bother me. Does me nuts up and opens beer bottles. Win

I really rate the Surly Jethro Tule. It rarely leaves my bag since it's small enough not to bother me. Does me nuts up and opens beer bottles. Win

wanted something flat, that fits in a pocket. So I can always carry it....ahem

mainly to do with being able to move your knee over across the top tube. you corner with weight shifts and moving your body around the bike a lot more than on a road bike, plus you can drop the saddle out the way when riding technical stuff at speed (especially on a hardtail)

Cheers for that.
Any more tales of the blindingly obvious available, oh great enlightened one?

Does me nuts up and opens beer bottles. Win

Is Mel on the way out then?

Cheers for that.
Any more tales of the blindingly obvious available, oh great enlightened one?

you are a fucktard.
it's not rocket science working that out.