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  • But what if you don't have to imagine and still question that? I think in trying to to be sensitive to victims of abuse you've slipped over the line in to thinking you can speak on the behalf of all of them. Well, in this case, I know for a fact that you can't.

    fair enough.

    Nonsense. It's being able to laugh and make jokes about terrible things that facilitates our getting over them. If you're not comfortable with that fine, but don't presume to speak for others who are.

    and indeed fair enough.

    however, i did point out at the top of my post that it was just my opinion.im not comfortable with it, clearly, but im not presuming to speak for others. just me, though i know a lot of people would agree with what i said, and it seems that others dont. which is also fine.

    its weird because im torn by jokes about death and tragedies. by that i mean i think that they are inappropriate, but i dont feel it but because they are so far removed from me, they mean nothing and can be funny in some abstract way.

    but the paedo jokes i can never find funny because they arent far from me, so i do think and feel strongly about them, and im just expressing that feeling. .

    i also think that abuse jokes are far less abstract and closer to more people in general than plane crash/environmental catastrophie/death jokes. for example, in a room of ten people, you could probably all laugh at a joke about death and plane crashes, but a paedo joke will leave at least one, more like two or three feeling uncomfortable.

    *to me, *it is unquestionable, maybe that will change in time but right now it is my opinion. im not telling people to stop it, but if i find what people write to be offensive, i am allowed to be offended and express that. im sorry if folks feel i was out of order and trying to speak for others, but it simply isnt what i was doing.

    anyway, carry on, im outta here.

    R.I.P MJ.

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